EP #116 -Conspiracy theories and the crazy of the world. Where do you stand?

Robb (: 00:04

And welcome to another show of Don't Get This Twisted. I am Rob along with my co-host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 00:11

It's a Sunday, Rob. I'm digging it. We are recording on Sunday. It's Wednesday. When you hear this.

Robb (: 00:13

Hey, hey, you don't tell people that.

So yeah, it's a Wednesday. Yes, when you hear this, it's Wednesday, but obviously we have to do things. We can't do this. And Tuesdays, it's rough for me on Tuesdays. And we have done it most, I mean, a lot of the time, people don't understand that we've really recorded this show on a Tuesday night and it comes out a few hours later, but we like to do.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 00:33

I know. I know.

Yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 00:43

Yep, we've done that. And mostly because it's my fault too. Yeah, it's my fault. I'm sorry.

Robb (: 00:47

Yeah, that's true. It's okay. If you're doing it, you gotta take the blame, it's okay. So this week, we were talking about a lot of things before last week's show, and about the crazy phone call that we got from the government. And there was lots of a warning sign. Even though you had your phone

Tina Marie Garcia (: 00:55

Yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 01:02

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 01:09

Yeah, our warning. Yeah.

Robb (: 01:16

in I don't want to hear emergency mode, which look, yeah, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 01:22

Well, we should go back and explain this, though. The government came out and said that everybody was going to have an emergency broadcast system message sent that was going to bypass whether your phone was set to ignoring those or not. Um, it was going to go through all TV, all radio, all cellular services, everything. And, um, it.

Robb (: 01:39

Yep.

Robb (: 01:46

Everything.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 01:50

really did cause kind of a stink because people were like, why is the government doing this? This is on the heels of what happened in Maui. And this is going through the whole United States. It's not by region. Everybody got it. And the only way that you wouldn't get it on your phone is if your phone was in airplane mode or off. So I decided to turn my phone and my watch completely off and keep it off from

Robb (: 02:03

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 02:10

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 02:18

11 o'clock till like 12 15. I left it off and you left it off as well right?

Robb (: 02:24

I did, but I had my phone on, or I'm sorry, I had my watch on and nothing came through. So it had to be done through your cellular service. And I had my iPad on at the time, but through a wifi signal and I didn't get anything. So it was definitely through a cellular device. And I don't know about TV and radio, I'm sure that it was on, but not many people listen to radio anymore.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 02:37

Really? Okay.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 02:48

Mm-hmm.

I listen to radio all the time. Even you know, I was on my Harley during the time that this because I needed to stay away from everything and not pick up any device. So I got on my Harley and I was even worried because the GPS and everything. I was like, I could get it through this. So it was kind of interesting to go through the process of what it would what it would show up on versus what it wouldn't. It did not show up on anything on my on my.

Robb (: 02:52

Really? I don't listen to the radio ever.

Robb (: 03:14

Yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 03:18

my Harley. However, it didn't show up on my phone or my watch either because everything was turned off. But my people at work that all went on at the same time and there was like 14 people all at once they got theirs and friends posted it on their social media that they got it but everybody's a little apprehensive about it because why are they doing this all of a sudden? And

Robb (: 03:25

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 03:45

Correct.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 03:46

what does 5g mean now because everybody's questioning 5g and um i don't know it's kind of a because you're because instinctually it's hard to if you don't if you don't know everything about something it could bring a lot of fear like if you don't know what 5g does and what it could go through or what it could do you know as far as um

Robb (: 04:09

Sure.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 04:17

making life better or worse, then you could start throwing things at it. So I didn't realize that 5g everybody was saying had something to do with, with the shots for COVID that like there's, there's metals in your body from the shots of COVID and the 5g could do something of the metals in your body because we always have our phones on us. I've heard so many crazy things lately that I'm like,

Robb (: 04:34

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 04:43

We need to talk about this because it's, it's a little, when I get afraid of things that are being said, and I never do, I was like, we need to talk about this. So that was, that's my whole thing. That 5g thing is kind of weird. I didn't look it up though, cause I wanted to wait till the podcast so that we could talk about it. But, um, there's, there's lots of conspiracy theories within our government right now.

Robb (: 05:11

There, yeah, there's a ton of them all over. You found a list which we'll talk about in a few minutes. But yeah, I mean, just type in conspiracy theories and there's a bazillion websites on them. Because I think we as people start, oh, you know, there's so many conspiracy theories out there.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 05:15

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 05:25

Oh, I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you said.

Robb (: 05:36

that it's, I think we find it easy to fall into because for one, lots of people don't trust the government. You know, first of all. And then secondly, we as people love mysteries, right? So I think they kind of walk hand in hand.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 05:39

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 05:48

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 05:56

whether you believe them or not is a whole other thing. It's kind of like you said, Maui. There's a lot of people who believe that a big giant laser from the sky started the fires. So I think there's a lot to be said to those things. Like you said, it was something about the blue, what was it, blue something.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 06:07

Yes.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 06:19

It was a blue ray laser and something about if it went over anything blue, it, it absorbed the, the ray. It didn't actually have any problems with the ray. Like blue cars were still standing and blue houses were still standing, but everything around it had burnt. Now they did point out that there's also white houses that's that were standing and there was other.

Robb (: 06:26

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 06:38

Okay.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 06:46

other colors that were standing, but the majority of the things that didn't get burnt were blue. And so there was a big conspiracy theory on that, that the government started it by using blue rays to ignite the fire when it was a windy day and they had turned off all the water and firemen and everybody were stuck in positions where they couldn't get out. People died just trying to

Robb (: 07:03

Right, right.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 07:16

It happened so quickly that people were just engulfed in flames and smoke. And as people were trying to leave, they were seeing people on fire. They were seeing people that were dead on the ground that were burnt, as they were trying to escape.

then a lot of people had passed also in the water from the smoke inhalation and, you know, from having health problems and different things. But that was just, I, my friend came over and he started saying, Tina, have you seen any of these things? And as we all know, I don't like to look at that shit because I already feel like, you know, I'm uneasy enough about things that go on that. I don't put myself in that situation to be scared, but the more that we watched

Robb (: 07:41

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 08:02

the more that the scarier it was. And then another part to that conspiracy theory about the blue rays and Maui is that they don't have victims.

on any of the social media, like none of the stuff that was victims talking about what they experienced, can you find on TikTok? We spent a lot of time looking and there was nothing like that. There wasn't anything about how all the kids are still missing. There was nothing about, so the kids missing became something about maybe they were, you know, when they were found, like the whoever found them, if they were certain people, pick them up and use them for, you know, now they're

seen again, supposedly being burnt from the fire, are we're now taken into sex trafficking, it just it goes so deep, all these conspiracy theories. Now, if you ask me if I believe in all of them, I think there's truth in everything. But is it all true? I don't believe that it is. But there's some things that are going on that we definitely cannot overlook.

Robb (: 09:18

Right, I'll agree with you there. I think that there's, it's too easy to find a lot of truths inside these conspiracy theories, right? At least some of them. I was looking over some of the ones that, that are online, where we probably will overlap them with the ones that you found.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 09:26

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 09:45

but there are several very high impact ones throughout the years that are interesting. The Maui one has me more interested because there's so many high profile rich people who own land there. And from what I understand, I've never been to Maui, but from what I understand that...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 10:00

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 10:13

part of the island was not very rich. It was kind of a...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 10:17

Right, it was owned by the local people of Maui. And it was a, Maui, I've been there a couple times. Beautiful place. I always felt, when I would go there, I'm like, why does the air, the energy in the air feel different? And I thought about that for a long time while I was there because I just get a really good feeling when I would go. And what I came up with is who goes to Maui? People that are.

Getting engaged people who have just got married and it's their honeymoon people that go for their for their anniversaries People that want to be happy and in love and they want to experience the tropical warmth and the blue waters and everything So the people that are there they want to be there and all that energy When you have that many people that are in a good space and are loved and being loved and are loving it creates like a

different feel a different vibe like you don't get that when you're in New York City that's not the vibe you feel when you go there because New York City is a lot of hustle and bustle and working and you know, it's a city life where Maui was you know, definitely a place where you stop and smell the stop and smell the flowers and you enjoy it and you I Don't know you just feel different there. So

Robb (: 11:22

Right.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 11:40

that was always kind of something that just felt good when I'd go. But the people were really kind, but they didn't have a lot of money, but they all took care of each other. And I felt like in with this fire, I was like, that's going to change the vibe of the whole land there. And it made me really sad because

As we all know, if you're good to your houseplants and you say nice things to them, they tend to grow better. If you're, if you're pissed off and you're just like, Oh, I wish you'd die. They do die. The plant life does die. Like it's been, it's been scientifically proven. So I'm concerned about how Maui is going to get through this because there's so many things that are now negative and, and all these people have not been found and all these people are

going without food and water and shelter and the government's not helping them. I think each person, no, $720 I think is what FEMA came up for each and every person that went through that, which, oh, and I'm sorry, it's not each and every person, it's family, it's people living in a household. So we got more money during the 94 earthquake than that.

Robb (: 12:47

Well, not enough.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 13:05

and really stuck it out for us, but why aren't they doing it for Maui? I don't understand.

Robb (: 13:16

Yeah, well, maybe because we send billions of dollars to a foreign country to fight a war.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 13:18

Yeah, and it wasn't even supposed to go there. You know, so I don't know. I'm our government right now is really leaving a bad taste in my mouth because what they should be doing and who they should be taking care of is not happening.

Robb (: 13:26

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 13:39

For sure, for sure. Conspiracy theories over the years have been very big. There's quite a few of them. I found 20 on a site here, 20 of the best conspiracy theories. You have a list in front of you as well. I'll throw one out.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 13:51

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 14:00

I'm not even using my list.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 14:06

do it.

Robb (: 14:06

Well, these are like some pretty big ones, like the Kennedy assassination, basically that the government, that it was done by the government through either Oswald, who shot him for the government, and or that there was a second gunman.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 14:10

And it was done by the government.

Robb (: 14:27

several things. It was also during the time of the Bay of Pigs and Castro and a couple other things. There's lots of things that are always thrown into that. There's a few things that have been debunked, like that he couldn't have made both shots.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 14:37

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 14:47

In the amount of time that's why they always think that there's a second shooter that one's kind of been debunked you know, we have way more science than we did in the 60s and They have said that a marksman of his caliber probably could have got off two shots in that time period Now the whole thing of him being killed by the government would not shock me whatsoever just because

Tina Marie Garcia (: 15:09

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 15:15

You know, he was a very liberal president, but he had some things that he was doing that a lot of people didn't like. So those that be, you know, think that they had him whacked. He also had ties to the mob. His dad was a liquor runner and...

a bunch of other things. So there could be a lot of things that could be wrapped up in that one. What about you? What's one of the other ones that comes up in your thing?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 15:42

Mm-hmm

Tina Marie Garcia (: 15:46

Loch Ness Monster that one has been my whole life. It's like, oh, they're looking for the Loch Ness Monster in Ireland. It's, it's out there. And people really do say just like Bigfoot. People say they've seen it. They've seen it. They've seen it. But they for some reason, they don't ever come out with Yeah, it's really true. Or if those are two that I always heard of, but I don't know why they would come up with those.

Robb (: 16:14

I think...

Robb (: 16:19

Um, I, you know, look, the, the Loch Ness one could have been from so long ago that there was just a big fish or a big, um, you know, water dweller in the water that they just didn't have any idea what it was at the time. Um, that one, you know, who knows? Look, every picture of Bigfoot and the Loch Ness monster is just shitty.

Now, you know, look, we have phones that are better than cameras. That, you know, we're in a place where there shouldn't be. It's like UFOs. We're going to talk about UFOs and how the government came out now and said, oh, there's UFOs. There's still no clean pictures, even the ones that are from military airplanes look shitty. It's like, you know, don't you guys?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 16:52

Mm-hmm

Tina Marie Garcia (: 17:13

Yeah, but if it's military airplanes versus UFOs, both things are moving at the time. You're not going to get the greatest picture. I can't even get a picture of the moon that turns out right if I'm in my car and my car is on, let alone moving.

Robb (: 17:30

Right, but we're talking about cameras that are way more advanced than your cellular phone that are on the fronts of these military planes. My whole thing is like, there has to be something better, a better picture of something that's out there. I'm not a, I don't believe in aliens only because I haven't seen them and I haven't.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 17:49

My question is why is the government now saying that they're real? Why now? What's going to happen next? Right?

Robb (: 17:57

Well, that could be for a whole other reason. Yeah, that could be for a whole other reason. Or, look, when things are bad in the country, there's always something that pops up to take our vision away from other things. When they throw aliens out there that are real, it's funny, they throw it out there, but I think the...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 18:15

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 18:27

mass people of this country were like, yeah, we don't care. Like you would have thought it would have been a bigger deal and it wasn't.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 18:27

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 18:32

Well, we have so many big deals that actually affect our day-to-day that I think that was low on the totem pole.

Robb (: 18:45

Right, which goes to show you where we're at.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 18:46

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 18:49

You know, it's like, I don't know. It's kind of a weird thing. Here's the one that's very big and, you know, we've talked about it before, but chemtrails. And, you know, changing and affecting the weather and, you know, look, who knows? There's a lot of things.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 18:59

Mm-hmm.

and it affecting our weather.

Robb (: 19:17

flying through the air and would it surprise me that there are things being put into the air to change our weather? Not a bit. And it's often, I mean, you're looking through the skies almost daily and look, I understand that airplanes give off, you know,

Tina Marie Garcia (: 19:25

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 19:40

emissions.

Robb (: 19:46

Yeah, emissions or let out Certain things into the air because they're you know, like jet planes obviously it's just often that you see these miles of

Tina Marie Garcia (: 19:50

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 20:03

of lines in the air that look like clouds but aren't because there's no clouds around. It's just, I can see where we can go with that. And I am kind of a believer that we're trying to do too much with the weather patterns. And we've talked about it before that, you know, who knows what they're putting up there? Aluminum, because aluminum goes into clouds and.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 20:22

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 20:29

you know, supposedly it's changing the, you know, um, weather patterns of the world. Like, there are countries that I can understand where they don't get a lot of water and they're trying to get them water. So if we can put rain in the air, I get it. But, ah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 20:43

That changes the whole ecosystem though. The whole ecosystem.

Robb (: 20:50

changes a lot. And with the

Robb (: 20:57

people thinking that the warm Earth is happening. I can understand where things are blown out of proportion on a lot of different levels. What's one of your other favorite conspiracy theories? Yeah, where since both sides of that argument, do I believe that the Earth is getting warmer? Sure, why not? But.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 21:07

Are you talking about global warming?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 21:22

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 21:26

It's also billions of years old and it's probably done this thousands and thousands and thousands of times. Whether human beings were here or not. If the earth decides it wants to get warmer, we either adapt or we go away. So one country changing its fossil fuel use is not going to change anything. This whole planet would have to do it. And that's not going to happen.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 21:50

Yeah.

Robb (: 21:55

because we can't generate enough electricity to run vehicles. Unless we're all gonna have horses again, it's never gonna happen.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 22:01

We could go back to do it like the Amish.

Robb (: 22:08

We could, but could you imagine trying to change society now where they're like, everyone has to have a horse. So there would be no apartments anymore. Either that or your Uber would be horse driven and everyone would just wait for a stagecoach to come. You know, it...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 22:17

Right?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 22:26

That would kind of be fun for a minute, not for very long, but... Yeah.

Robb (: 22:33

Yeah, not for very long though. Not if your work was 40 minutes away by car. So, although the world would change, your jobs would now start to have to be local again. And you just have to go backwards. And no one is gonna go backwards. I mean, not purposely. Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 22:37

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 22:49

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 22:52

Yeah, that's true. Well, not unless we have to. Not unless we have to.

Robb (: 23:03

Do you have anything on your list or anything that comes up like conspiracy wise that makes you kind of go hmm?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 23:08

Um, well, other than the moon landing being fake, that was one that came up. Like over the years, I've, I've heard that over and over. Um.

Robb (: 23:19

That one.

Robb (: 23:24

Yeah, there are a lot of arguments to that. I've kind of dove into it with some friends and look, the moon landing is kind of a weird thing. First of all, if you don't know, the guy who, what did he direct? He directed Eyes Wide Shut and...

He said that he filmed it. Let's see what his name was. I should know this.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 23:54

Oh, he actually came out and said he was the one that filmed that? Because they say that the reason that there's a

Robb (: 24:01

Yeah, yeah, he was the one that did 2001, A Space Odyssey.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 24:05

There's okay. So they said that the reason that people think that the moon landing was fake was the flag was moving in the wind. There were no stars in the sky whatsoever. The misaligned shadows. These are all points made in the conspiracy theory that Neil Armstrong did not take that first leap for mankind on the moon in 1969 for years conspiracists have argued that NASA staged the landing and that the secret has been protected by the CIA ever since.

Robb (: 24:09

That would be.

Robb (: 24:19

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 24:39

Correct. You're right. There is a few different things with the lighting being off because of the shadowing, right? Because there should only be one light source, which would be the sun. So there is that Stanley Kubrick, who also did 2001 of Space Odyssey and lots of other movies. He did like Eyes Wide Shut. He did...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 24:45

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 24:49

right.

Robb (: 25:09

Uh, what the hell? What else did he do? He did like a lot of big time movies. I think he did, uh, what was the, whoa.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 25:13

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 25:24

the movie with, hold on, let me just look up Kubrick instead of astounding. The Shining, he did The Shining, he did Full Metal Jacket. He so he was a big time movie director and kind of a weirdo. He did A Clockwork Orange. But 2001, The Space Odyssey had. Who said he said he did it?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 25:29

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 25:38

And he said that he was the one... He said that he was... That's crazy.

Robb (: 25:49

He said he filmed it. His wife to this day says that it's true. But he's very far dead. But you look at something like this where, in 2001, the Space Odyssey, there was a...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 25:51

Hmm.

Robb (: 26:07

scene of like people being on another planet so it could be let's see on my side it says the they call the moon landing a 30 billion dollar swindle that of course same thing never happened

Tina Marie Garcia (: 26:19

Mmm.

Robb (: 26:28

There's moon rocks that have came back, but they say it could have been things falling to the earth over the years. The one thing that does strike me weird, and I'm kind of a believer, I think we were there, but at the time in the 60s, there was no live feed from the moon. Everyone filmed it off a screen, a secondary screen.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 26:47

Mm-hmm

Robb (: 26:58

So like all the news stations were filming a television screen instead of filming or having a feed come in through NASA. At least that's what I've read. So I find that to be kind of a pretty bizarre, bizarre thing like, oh wow. But maybe for the time period, they just didn't have the technology to put it out to every network. I don't know. You know, I mean, you have to think that.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 27:05

Right.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 27:19

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 27:28

our telephones are a better computer than they went to the moon with. So obviously things were definitely different at the time period. What about this one? What do you think about the earth being flat?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 27:46

Yeah, what do you want me to say on this? Um, I.

Robb (: 27:48

I know that one.

Robb (: 27:54

their net jobs.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 27:56

Yeah. You're not going to get to the edge and fall off. And I think that's the whole point.

Robb (: 27:59

I mean, look, I mean, that one, everything... Well, and everything else in this solar system is round.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 28:06

Right.

Robb (: 28:10

You know, like the moon that we look at every day is a sphere. So yeah, to think that we're not, I think that's a little crazy. That that one I just can't, I can't buy. How about the reptile people run the US government? Have you ever heard that one? Lizard people?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 28:13

is around, yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 28:20

Yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 28:33

I'm starting to believe that shit.

Robb (: 28:39

Yeah, it's pretty crazy. I mean, the idea of a half lizard, half human goes way back to the time, tracing back to Pulp Fiction Magazine in 1929, that the people who are part of the New World Order are aliens, are half reptile people. Kind of makes you think. I mean, they're definitely some crazy people.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 28:48

Mmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 29:04

Mm-hmm.

How about COVID was, there's so many COVID-19 related conspiracy theories that range from blaming 5G for the pandemic, which is still going strong, despite all of the scientific evidence to the contrary, to condemning everyone for big, from big pharma to Bill Gates for the outbreak. They talk about it being

Robb (: 29:08

Um, let's see what

Tina Marie Garcia (: 29:32

that it was a big scare that came from the mass media, that the mass media needed to cover up something that was going on. And so that's where COVID evolved. And.

Robb (: 29:50

Yeah, I would go out on a limb and say that there's probably some realism in some of that stuff. I mean, look, COVID was the first big scare tactic of our lifetime, right? They tried it with 9-11, which was like, hey, just so you know, the world may blow up at any time.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 29:57

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 30:10

Well, they got their way with 9-11 because they wanted to be able to put cameras everywhere and be able to find us easier than what they could in the past. So 9-11 basically gave away a lot of our freedom or we out of being scared gave away a lot of our freedoms by allowing the government to be able to find us.

Robb (: 30:19

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 30:34

by so many different means. I mean, they even have things on trash trucks that will run all the numbers of every license plate that it runs by. Like it literally will give, it'll give the police, they could go and look and they could find exactly where any car that they wanna look for, they'll find it because of all the cameras and different things that they have to use.

But what was the theory or what was the conspiracy? Go ahead.

Robb (: 31:03

Right. Well, and you also heard.

Well, there is the one where they said the Pentagon was never hit by an airplane, it was hit by a rocket. There's one of those said that the Flight 77 never really hit it. Yeah, that because that, you know, although I know, I know people who are very close to me that...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 31:14

I did not hear that part.

Robb (: 31:33

know somebody that was in the Pentagon. So he'll tell you, don't ever bring that shit up to him because he knows. Which is, look, we live in a world where the media really kind of bends everything, right? If you look at COVID, COVID was on the news every day, every single day.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 31:47

Absolutely.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 31:53

And it still is every single day since it started.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 32:00

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 32:00

So there's, and they're pushing it again. And it is a way to take away people's freedoms and make you rely on the government. You know?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 32:07

Mm-hmm. Make you scared to live.

Robb (: 32:14

Yeah, I mean, you look at it as something as, you know, laws being made. Gun laws are based on fear, right? You know, if there's too many people who have guns, we got to take them away. If we take them away, don't worry about it, we'll protect you. That's the government's way of doing it.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 32:20

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 32:31

who protects us from the government. That wasn't our constitution built on, this is how you protect yourself from the government and don't put up with any other bullshit, but here we are putting up with bullshit.

Robb (: 32:39

us. Yes, exactly.

Robb (: 32:47

Yeah, don't the part of the Constitution said is should have been don't believe the government

Tina Marie Garcia (: 32:50

Mm-hmm. Well, it kind of does if you read it. It tells you don't fall victim to this

Robb (: 32:55

But the problem is that the government runs the medias and they wanna put out whatever they wanna do. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any leap and bounds, but I understand how the media works. I mean, if you look at something as simple as the Nazi party.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 33:02

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 33:20

You know, the propaganda movement of the Nazi party is how they rose to being big. They put fear into the eyes of German people. The first thing that they said about the Jews is that they were dirty and sick. So we need to separate them from the masses.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 33:25

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 33:46

And it's exactly what they did with COVID. In some countries like Australia, they had places that they took you if you had COVID. They separated you from normal people. And look, they were trying to do it again here recently about COVID. It's coming, we're gonna have to wear a mask again. Get your 18th shot.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 34:01

Yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 34:05

Yeah, and we're getting close, especially in California.

Robb (: 34:13

Yeah, it's moving at a pace again where, you know, I think most modern people though are over that. Where freedom has been taken away so much, being locked up for the two years that we were, I think that you're going to see people fight this coming one time. People are just going to start saying no.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 34:35

Well, but I don't know because with all the crazy shit that's going on, people are not saying no and we need to start saying no.

Robb (: 34:48

Well, I think that there's a certain list of people who are going to back the government no matter what. Unless their person isn't in power. Right? You look at the government right now who is being ran by, unfortunately, a decrepit old man who's dying. And that's just a fact. You look at someone like Obama, which I might not be a Democrat, but at least he had his...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 34:53

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 35:08

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 35:17

facilities, right? I just saw some footage the other day where our president just shut down halfway through, started staring into La Land, like mid-sentence. It's crazy.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 35:30

But he doesn't have the wherewithal to keep a thought, you know, and then when he, when he's saying something, he's not even, he's, he's lying. Like he talked about, Oh, I've for Maui. He was like, I understand what you're going through. Cause my wife and I went through a very, very bad house fire. And then, you know, it came out, it was a minimal kitchen, like fire. It was nothing, but he,

He lies. He just makes up shit to... I don't even know if he knows why he makes up shit. He just makes it up. He's a mess.

Robb (: 35:59

Yes.

Robb (: 36:09

Right. Look, there's... So when you look at... Well, I mean, look at the... There's also the conspiracy theories that he's not running the country and it's ran by a bunch of other people.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 36:17

Well, we know that's the truth, because he couldn't lift up his coffee without spilling on himself, let alone run in a country. He's a hot mess.

Robb (: 36:28

I mean, I think that I would go out on a limb and say that that's probably been like this for a long time. You know, there's so many lobbyists and big money and pharmaceuticals, like I don't think people really understand the pharmaceutical industry. And you know that they have like 85% of the commercials on television are from the pharmaceutical companies.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 36:32

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 36:48

Oh, yeah, I'm sure of it. I'm sure of it. Because when I'm sitting there with my dad watching TV, watching the news, you could you could learn about every drug that's out there right now, where it never used to be like that. People say I never heard of that drug. But now you hear about it because you know, it will cause erectile dysfunction, or it'll call cause anal leakage. Or you could have a massive stroke and diets all on TV multiple times during one program.

Robb (: 36:54

So you're...

Robb (: 37:22

Well, and some of these programs are sponsored by the company, like Pfizer. A lot of these late night shows, they're like sponsored by Pfizer. And so, and then you wonder why some of these late night guys are doing these like stupid things on getting the shot. It's, I don't know. I think we're at a point where if you believe in your freedom,

Tina Marie Garcia (: 37:26

Well, yeah.

Robb (: 37:49

you have to believe in these conspiracy theories because a lot of them have came true over the years. Where like, they're like, oh, this, oh yeah, it's true. Or this, and it's true. It's like wearing a mask. The whole thing that they put that down your throat from the first day of COVID. And then two years later now, or two and a half years later, they're like, yeah, they didn't work.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 38:10

Well, not only that, but did you realize I'm still seeing people in their cars by themselves with a mask on. I'm still doing people's hair where they won't come in without a mask on and I'm going, why? And a lot of it is now they have phobias about breathing fresh air that other people may have had in their system as well. And they created fear that may not ever go away.

Especially in my older clientele, I don't know if they'll ever go without a mask again. I will never see the bottom part of their face again. That blows my mind.

Robb (: 38:41

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 38:45

Yeah.

Which is insane.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 38:50

Yeah, it's out there. But a lot of things are out there. Is that the dumbest one to believe? No, because there's way worse. There's so many things that you could be believing in that are just asinine.

Robb (: 38:56

Yeah, and look.

Robb (: 39:04

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 39:09

And I think that we're at a spot now where there's too much information, right? Which is good and bad. And I think that's where conspiracy theories start, right? Someone will break something open and then the next thing you know, they're finding way more things out about something that the modern media isn't saying.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 39:12

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 39:27

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 39:34

So people start asking questions like, I don't know, why? My friend down the street, she's always throwing something at me. And it's cool because there are things that I don't hear about. So then I can start researching these things. And it's funny, a lot of them are very much right.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 39:36

Yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 39:54

You know, it's funny as I hear conspiracy theories all the time, but from men, from male, like, uh, people that I work with to clients, to friends, it seems like men listen to the news more than women do. Cause I find that most of my female friends have really shut that down.

but the male friends and they're like no I saw on tik-tok look and they'll show me like 50 different videos on the same thing and it's amazing how much were We're told but then it's also amazing how much we're not told so it really kind of it sets me off as uneasy because What do you believe where does it come from? What is the truth? And why are we being fed the bullshit?

Robb (: 40:33

Oh, for sure.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 40:42

I'm really having a hard time with that. And I don't think I'm the only one.

Robb (: 40:44

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 40:49

I think, you know, oh no, I think there's a, no, I think it's more, it's running more rampant now that people are just believing less. For sure, there's things that will tell you just within your friends that people don't believe mainstream media anymore, for sure. And it's funny, because you say that about my friend down the street who is very, very feminine.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 40:57

Yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 41:08

now.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 41:14

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 41:17

but she'll even kind of tell you that sometimes she thinks like a dude. So maybe that is why she's like really big on these. She's also very biblical. And she's like thrown a lot of things at me about things that are happening in the world that the Bible has said. And it's. Fucking scary as shit, like and not just.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 41:31

has warned us about, yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 41:37

It is.

Robb (: 41:43

And I am talking like pinpointing things. It's like oh, yeah, like and she's like, oh this was in revelations and this I'm like Oh shit, you know and now look at Israel being bombed out of nowhere so

Tina Marie Garcia (: 41:53

I didn't hear about that. They're being bombed now? By who?

Robb (: 41:58

Oh yeah, like yesterday. No, Hamas started the Hamas. They started a war yesterday. They drove into Israel. They've killed like a hundred and some people already. They're they're shooting rockets at buildings. There's going to be a war in the Middle East, and Israel is going to be part of it. Or is it?

Tina Marie Garcia (: 42:14

Israel's always been part of it though. They've always

Robb (: 42:20

Well, there's reasons. There's reasons for that, but... Center point.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 42:20

Well yeah, it's the religious... it's... it's uh... yeah. It's the center point for...

Robb (: 42:30

It's the religious center point of the, yeah. Here's, since we're running here close to the end of the show, I'm gonna give you one that I think is probably very true, but you might have to look deeper into it. Subliminal advertising. So.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 42:48

That's totally true. I took a class on that in college. That's true.

Robb (: 42:56

Yeah, they're saying that, I mean, and through everything, through music, through advertising, through television shows, that there's just tons of things that are being subliminally told to you.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 43:09

Well, if you look at I watch, I watch MTV still and because I like the videos, I like to watch and see what's going on. But if you look at the videos from when we were younger versus to now, like the political, the political subjects that are big in society right now are coming out on the videos. For instance, there's a video of, of I can't remember his name. I need to look this up.

But anyway, he did a video about being the devil and having sex with the devil and male on male sex and like all this stuff went on this one video and it seemed like it was all the agenda of things that are going through right now from transgender people to the gay that all that whole minority of people. It seems like the videos are more.

um they're heading in that direction like they're with what they're trying to force on people but it's in it's going out to a younger group of people it is definitely changing the way people think about life in this time.

Robb (: 44:24

Sure.

Robb (: 44:29

Well, I would say as much as just TikTok in general. TikTok in general is just a flash of nonsensical bullshit being thrown at you at 100 miles an hour and subliminal messages being put in through people, whether it's upfront or behind the scenes. There's corporations that put out TikToks or there's people who are being hired.

to be TikTok people. So who doesn't say that the government is hiring people to pass a message on? There are these two kids and I don't know their names and I wouldn't even, even if I did, I probably wouldn't say them because I think they're pieces of shit. But they're like anti-gunner kids and they're like 18 years old and they put out messages about, you know, about.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 45:06

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 45:25

gun violence and blah blah. Well, it comes back that they've been hired by a firm who's like an anti-gun firm, who's also given money from the government. So there's many, many hands in it and how are you going to get young people to listen? They're not gonna listen to us, right? Because they think we're, but they'll watch TikTok videos from people their age.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 45:44

Mm-mm, but they'll watch the videos

Tina Marie Garcia (: 45:54

Yeah, the person that I was talking about was little Nas X. And he did a lap dance. He gave a lap dance to the devil in his music video. Montero, call me by your name and his sale of Satan shoes, which allegedly have a drop of human blood in them. You don't think every kid in America knows about this. They do. They do.

Robb (: 45:54

that are now shoving things down their throat. It's a scary time.

Robb (: 46:03

There you go.

Robb (: 46:17

Correct.

Robb (: 46:25

I mean, there's definitely a very much of a rise of back to the devil. You know, it was big in the mid 80s with metal bands and there still is a huge practice of black metal bands in Norway, you know, giving the...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 46:42

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 46:46

the sign of the devil or music about Satan, but it's nothing new. But I think now, like the Lil Nas X, he was like the first, he did a cover of a country song.

with Miley Cyrus's dad. That's how he broke in and then he came out as gay and now he's doing that. And then there's also the English guy, I forgot what his name is, English singer who had like, did a thing on the Grammys where he was dressed as the devil. It's definitely something being thrown in more mainstream media. Cause I remember back in the day it was like, it was...

looked upon very badly by all of media. And obviously the Christian media and the Christian channels were burning records. And I get both sides of that. But it's definitely being thrown in your face a lot more. To me, that wouldn't even be a conspiracy. It's for sure. These are things that are factual. Just watch the modern media.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 47:31

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 47:52

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 48:00

Well, there's...

And again, this media that were just overtaken by, you know, I remember the day when Howard Cosell was reporting, and all you got was the facts, the complete facts, nothing more, nothing less, just the fact.

And it was over. Now you watch David Muir, you watch all these, like all these different, I don't even know who all of them are, just the ones that my dad watched. And the stuff that they're reporting, I'm like, I don't want your opinion. Your opinion should not be in the news. News should be, this is what's going on, period. Tell me the facts. And that's not what the news is anymore. And depending on your political party and what TV station you watch or listen to,

Robb (: 48:51

I totally agree.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 48:55

you could have the this political side or that political side there's no can I find a place where I could just get the facts that would really start to change things for me because that's what I want to know I don't I may not they may not have all the answers when they're when they're reporting but at least the answers that they have are the truth and that's what I really would like to see

I would like to know what the truth is.

Robb (: 49:28

Me too. Unfortunately, the mainstream media is owned by five people and what they want to get out is going to get out. That's the only good thing about the internet. If you wanna find news, there's people out there that are just trying to report, they have no opinion.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 49:35

Yeah.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 49:38

Mm-hmm. I agree.

Robb (: 49:50

That's the whole point with what we do, right? We give our opinion on things. And I think that opinions are important as long as you're telling people their opinions.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 49:52

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 49:58

Yeah, we don't go and say this is the absolute truth. No it you make a claim that says hey This is an opinion show if you don't like it don't you know? Don't care, but at least we're not trying to put out We're not putting out news and say it's the gospel. We're not doing

Robb (: 50:13

Yeah, it is what it is.

Robb (: 50:20

Correct, what I say is, look, I have an opinion on something and we all should, it's an important thing in society to have opinions, but you can't have an opinion on a fact. A fact tells you something. Yeah, we can look at a situation and go, I don't believe in that and that's my opinion, but it doesn't mean that the factual part of that is not true.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 50:29

Yeah, a fact is a fact. Yes, I agree.

Robb (: 50:48

I think as a society we need to start looking deeper into the truth. Conspiracy theories are crazy because people think that the conspiracy theorists are nuts until they all start coming true. And there's been a lot more truths in the conspiracies than people really want to talk about. Conspiracy theorists used to be nutcases. Now they're like, you know, martyrs of the truth.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 50:58

Mm-hmm.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 51:06

Agreed.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 51:14

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 51:17

And the people who are supposedly telling you the truth have all been now showed to be liars. It's a scary thing.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 51:25

And it starts with our government, unfortunately. Our government, our news media, social media, like everything that everybody's trying to feed us. It's coming from everywhere.

Robb (: 51:35

Yeah.

Robb (: 51:38

Yep, and we're fed it way too much.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 51:39

Way too much. And on that, we should... He had lots of fence white.

Robb (: 51:44

I've had lots of friends now.

Robb (: 51:50

that are just trying to stay away from social media and news.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 51:50

Yeah, that would be me. But on that note, we need to cut it short, because we're 52 minutes into this.

Robb (: 51:56

Yeah, I don't blame you.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 52:01

Yeah, it's time. I got some basket weaving to do and I still need to get ready for my...

Robb (: 52:02

And we're hungry.

Robb (: 52:07

hungry.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 52:10

I'm sorry.

Robb (: 52:10

I need to go eat, I'm hungry. Me and my kid have now, on the weekends, we go get a Chipotle bowl, because it's like super duper full of protein and fiber, and it's like really good. So, and like I said, I haven't weighed in yet, but I think I'm down 12 pounds. So, it's working. I getcha. Yeah. It...

Tina Marie Garcia (: 52:28

nice. I don't agree with the Chipotle thing. I will not be caught dead eating that crap, but do you boo?

Robb (: 52:41

It's the better of the crap, which is what it is. Yeah, make sure to check out our socials for the next show. Give us some show topics. Check us out on Apple and Spotify for the biggest. And you can get us on Amazon and Google for the meantime. And Facebook, Instagram, Twitter or X, as they call it now. You can check us out all there for the updates.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 52:43

Yeah. Anyway.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 53:07

and reach out to us. Let us know what you want to hear about. Let us know what you want our opinions on. Let us know how you think the last episode was.

Robb (: 53:10

Anything else?

Robb (: 53:19

If you're going to reach out, just grab me in the nice places.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 53:22

That's even up for interpretation.

Robb (: 53:27

Alrighty. Exactly. This is an opinion show, so don't get it twisted. Keep coming back and listening to our craziness and our soothing voices to put you to sleep at night.

Tina Marie Garcia (: 53:35

Yes. All right. Have a good day.

Robb (: 53:40

Yes Tina as always it's fun. We'll talk to you later. Bye