Episode 103
EP #103 Risking it all, and failing.
Welcome back to Dont get this Twisted
In this conversation, Robb and Tina discuss the importance of taking risks and facing failure. They share personal examples of risks they have taken and the lessons they have learned from failures. They emphasize the value of failure in personal growth and the need to overcome the fear of talking about failures. They also discuss the fear of taking risks as one gets older and the beauty and upside of risks. Overall, they encourage listeners to embrace failure and take risks to live a fulfilling life. In this conversation, Tina Marie Garcia and Robb discuss the importance of embracing failure and taking risks in life. They highlight that failure is a necessary part of growth and that it's okay to fail when taking a risk. They give examples of famous inventions and successes that were born out of failures. The conversation also emphasizes the need to live a fulfilling life by pursuing what truly calls to you and not being driven solely by work. They encourage listeners to be vulnerable, embrace imperfections, and not be afraid to make mistakes.
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Transcript
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::[Robb]: And welcome to another show of Don't
Get This Twisted. I am Rob along with my cohost
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::[Robb]: as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm good today, Rob. How
you doing?
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::[Robb]: hot.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, no kidding.
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::[Robb]: It is warm, warm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: And it's gonna get nothing but worse,
worse.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, it's about time we
get in the pool.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, because it's, I know by the weekend
it's supposed to be a hundred where I am. So
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::[Robb]: probably
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Ah!
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::[Robb]: the same, probably the same where you're
at, I'm assuming.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'll be in Vegas this weekend
so it'll be even
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::[Robb]: Oh,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hotter.
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::[Robb]: well I'll tell you because I have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh
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::[Robb]: that,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't.
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::[Robb]: I have that on my app from when I lived
there. Let's see, Saturday, are you gonna go
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::[Robb]: Friday or Saturday?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm leaving Thursday night.
I have a wedding Friday and a wedding Saturday.
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::[Robb]: Okay, so Friday it's gonna be 112,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Holy crap.
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::[Robb]: and Saturday it's gonna be 115, and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh.
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::[Robb]: Sunday it's gonna be 116.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh good lord.
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::[Robb]: So those are indoor weddings, I'm hoping.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't know, I think so.
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::[Robb]: Yeeeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But if they're not, we're
not going to be dressed in very much. So
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::[Robb]: No, you're going to melt.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah.
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::[Robb]: Yeah. Thank goodness you're not, are
you gonna be there Monday or are you leaving
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::[Robb]: Monday?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Uh, we're actually I'm
leaving early Sunday morning. I'm just going
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in Thursday night, wedding
Friday, wedding Saturday, and then I'm out.
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::[Robb]: Well that's good, because Monday it's
gonna be 117.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Oh, balls.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, it's gonna be,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That's not cool.
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::[Robb]: whoa, hey, there's something that we
don't have on this show very often, a phone
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::[Robb]: call
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
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::[Robb]: in the background.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: What the hell?
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::[Robb]: We're generally
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I am so
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::[Robb]: pretty,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sorry!
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::[Robb]: we're generally really good about doing
that.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I let everybody know
that WID called me and it's spam risk. I am
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: so sorry for that.
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::[Robb]: That's funny. It's all right. It's,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: See?
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::[Robb]: I can't even tell you the last time
that's happened. Like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I
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::[Robb]: early, early shows.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah,
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::[Robb]: Like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: well, I took a nap
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::[Robb]: early.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: before this, so I don't
think I'm quite there yet. So
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::[Robb]: Right, right, right. But I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: my
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::[Robb]: mean,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: apologies.
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::[Robb]: you do have to say that, I think it
was probably within the first 10 shows. And
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::[Robb]: then after that, we got really good
about turning everything off right before we
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::[Robb]: went on. So, what do you know, a year
and a half later, we
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: eyeballs
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::[Robb]: have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: at it.
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::[Robb]: one, it's okay. It's all right. Again,
that's why I like not editing this show everything
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::[Robb]: out of it, because that just seemed,
it's for good realism.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: right?
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::[Robb]: Was that your watch this time?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Fuck. I- Yeah.
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::[Robb]: Hehehehehe I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Okay,
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::[Robb]: oh
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: everything is off now.
Now watch,
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::[Robb]: I oh
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if somebody comes into
the door, I- I give up. You know, there's not
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: much
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::[Robb]: I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I can
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::[Robb]: almost
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: say after that.
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::[Robb]: I almost got you to say fuck that was
would have been perfect.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It
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::[Robb]: Uh
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: didn't come out, I thought
it came out.
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::[Robb]: No,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Not
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::[Robb]: it was
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the
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::[Robb]: like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: whole word.
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::[Robb]: Alright
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm trying, I'm really
trying to not cuss. We'll see how it goes.
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::[Robb]: So check out our socials, all those
cool things, and go to Spotify or Apple and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like, follow, and subscribe.
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::[Robb]: That's right, it's free, free. And then
share it with all your friends and send it
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::[Robb]: all over the planet. So this week we
were, actually went and had lunch at our spot
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::[Robb]: in the valley. Chichi's pizza, and we
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehe
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::[Robb]: were talking about some things about
what we wanted to talk about, and you came
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::[Robb]: up with one, and I was like, oh, all
right, let's go further, expand on that, because
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::[Robb]: we did one way earlier, risk versus
reward.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: And obviously risk and reward, walk
hand in hand. If you're risking a lot, I'm
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::[Robb]: hoping that the reward is big, because
if it's not. Oh man, I think you're kinda going
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::[Robb]: down the wrong path. I think most of
us don't risk enough times. We
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: sit on our hands a lot and just kinda
go, well, all right, we'll see what happens,
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::[Robb]: instead of jumping to the forefront.
So you kinda had something to say where you're
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::[Robb]: like, what about risks and the times
they failed?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: And I was like, hmm, okay, think about
that, let's do it, but just kind of throw what
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::[Robb]: you were thinking out there, and then
we'll get on top of that with, I'm sure, things
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::[Robb]: that we've risked before, and they've
totally failed. So,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
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::[Robb]: what were
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: There's,
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::[Robb]: you thinking?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: there's a lot of times
where you risk and things don't go according
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to plan, like getting married
or falling in love. It's a risk because you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't know how
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::[Robb]: Oh
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: long
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::[Robb]: yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's going to last. If
the person's going to love you back, if you're
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: going to stay in love,
how long will it last? Like, you know, do you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sign the prenup? Do you
not? Like there's all those types of things.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But also like I remember
a time in my life where I was not married and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was barely dating and then
my daughter came into my life. Now, again,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: she's adopted. She's not
my biological daughter, but the risk of changing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: my whole life. to accommodate
a child and being a mom, because it wasn't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just accommodating a child,
it was raising a child as your own and adopting
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: her and going down that
pathway. And, you know, we don't speak anymore.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So I was talking to a friend
and they're like, well, was that a risk worth
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it? Or was it a risk that
wasn't worth it? And I had to think about it.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Unfortunately, because
we don't speak anymore, that was that was a
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: huge risk that didn't work
out for like the long-term plan.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But the risks for the short-term
plan, I believe it did because I was not able
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to have a child. I did
not learn that until well after I adopted.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I got to know what
it was like to be a mom, have a child, raise
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that child. Defend them
relentlessly and be the mom that I would have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: been had I had her
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But having gone through
that and things not working out it's like well
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was that a good one or
was that a bad one? I don't know. It took a
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: took my myself and my ex
down a path that we that we went down Apprehensively,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but we did it and now we're
not together. So it was funny how we were just
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: talking about Is it a good
risk? Was it a bad risk? What do you think
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: now? How did it work now?
Or you know, you take a path with a job and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the job doesn't work out.
You could have had a different one, but you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: took this one for whatever
reasons and it doesn't work out. So it was
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: funny because when we were
talking, I was thinking about all these times
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: where you risk and fail.
You know, you take a You could take a wrong
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: turn down the street and
end up in a car accident is that's a risk You
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to take when you're
driving, you know, especially
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: here in LA but do you not
take them or do you take them and as Much as
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm glutton for punishment
Sometimes I wonder but I still say mostly I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: would take them. I take
a lot of risks that when you know if you asked
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: my dad he'd be like that
was a dumb thing to do you know
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::[Robb]: the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: he said that to me several
times over my life so i don't know it just
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: got me thinking like how
do you take the risk why do you take the risks
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like how do you know what
goes on during it and how it ends up i so that's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: always like it's a huge
all those questions i just asked are like
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::[Robb]: Well, I think I see where you're coming
from though because I think a lot of people
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::[Robb]: like to say that they've taken these
risks and they've paid off
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: and And not many people will admit to
failing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: I think the job one is probably a bigger
one because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm
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::[Robb]: a lot of times you're leaving a Job
to start a new one with maybe the job you're
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::[Robb]: at is good or even great, but money
is always a factor, right? So you take this
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::[Robb]: job, because I did it. I took a job
as an alarm tech, and I ended up traveling
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::[Robb]: three hours before I ever picked up
a tool many times a week from Camarillo to
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::[Robb]: Paso Robles. And for people who are
out of state, it's a... drive
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: three hours and with no traffic.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah,
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::[Robb]: So I would
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in
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::[Robb]: get
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: California
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::[Robb]: up at,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: there's always traffic
so.
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::[Robb]: well, I got up at, I left my house at
five in the morning and I got to my first job
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::[Robb]: at eight o'clock.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mmm, okay.
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::[Robb]: So, and you know, the middle of California,
it's a lot of
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Farm Country.
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::[Robb]: farm country where it's just empty lanes
and you're driving, so. But short term it was
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::[Robb]: great because I was making more money.
But then it did things to me physically. When
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::[Robb]: you're sitting in a van and for three
hours both ways and I didn't have cruise control
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::[Robb]: in it so I couldn't take my foot off.
So there was things that I felt physically
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::[Robb]: were happening to me. My legs were always
sore and I didn't want bad things to happen
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::[Robb]: to me. But
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right.
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::[Robb]: I took the risk because on the front
end, I was like, cool, I'm gonna make more
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::[Robb]: money. But I think it was a fail long
run because it just didn't end up working for
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::[Robb]: me. It was harder on my life than I
thought it was gonna be, so I ended up going
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::[Robb]: back to the job that I had before that.
Thankfully, I was lucky enough to go back making
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::[Robb]: the same amount of money. So
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: nice.
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::[Robb]: it sort of paid off, but from the risk.
of going to a new place, it really didn't.
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::[Robb]: I mean, I ended up going back to where
I was working, thankfully made the same amount
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::[Robb]: of money, but there was a little humble
pie that I had to eat.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm
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::[Robb]: So, you know, I can see where people
don't wanna say these failures, or like, I
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::[Robb]: think moving to Vegas, as much as it
was a risk, it definitely didn't pay off. I
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::[Robb]: ended up not, ended up not in where
wanted to be. And then it was:225
::[Robb]: know, the housing market took a shit.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: Just everyone took a shit, I ended up
losing my job.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Thanks for watching!
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::[Robb]: I ended up thankfully making it back
to California, because most people, if you
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::[Robb]: leave this state, it's so hard to come
back. I ended up making it back here. in a
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::[Robb]: decent position, finally got work, blah,
blah. But I would say that as a risk, me moving
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::[Robb]: to Vegas was not, it was a failure,
complete failure.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: So, I mean.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, I think I have
always taken risks. I would say that I made
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: my parents both very uncomfortable
with some of the things that I chose to do.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I was bold about it.
You know, I would just say, well, I'm doing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: this. And that's the way
it goes. And but I also at 19, I got into doing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hair. You know, I went
to school for it and and. And I made it a living
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and everybody's like, oh,
she'll, she'll only do this for a couple of
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: years. She won't stay with
it. Well, 31 years later, now I'm looking at
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: teaching.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So it's, I've come a long
way in, in my business in that respect and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it paid off. But on the
other hand, like I've, I've done some, gosh,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I've done some really stupid
things that didn't pay off.
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::[Robb]: Right. And I think that it's good that
we can stand up and say that, because like
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::[Robb]: I said, a lot of people I know will
probably not call things failures. They're
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::[Robb]: just
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: they'll just breeze over that part of
their life and go, oh, it was just, you know,
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::[Robb]: I ended up doing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is hard.
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::[Robb]: this. Well, they'll end up looking at
the risk that was the reward.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: And it's like, you know, what about
somewhere in between there or? Like relationships,
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::[Robb]: relationships are the easy thing, I
think, for most people. Some are big risks
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::[Robb]: and some are, obviously, not as big
a risk. I ended up buying a house with somebody
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::[Robb]: and got sued over it. Bad risk. And
a total failure. So,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
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::[Robb]: you know, and I know lots of people
who, have been or are in relationships that,
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::[Robb]: are a failure, but they won't say it
is because they don't want to be judged for
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::[Robb]: it. And
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: I think that's sad. You should kind
of wear some of these failures as a badge of
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::[Robb]: honor. Like if you've gotten out of
something, the long run of it is, yes it failed,
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::[Robb]: but it should be a badge of honor to
wear and say look, I got out of it. Things
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::[Robb]: are still shitty. Like.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: And I failed, but it's okay, because
I took a risk that maybe I shouldn't have,
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::[Robb]: and it got me here. Now it's the next
risk, right? We should continue to take these
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::[Robb]: risks.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Absolutely.
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::[Robb]: Like you said, you wanna teach. In my
employment right now, my manager just quit,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm
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::[Robb]: gave his notice, and everyone was like,
oh, are you going to apply? Well yeah, I mean,
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::[Robb]: whether I get it or not is irrelevant.
The risk has an upside. If
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: I do get it, you know, obviously I'll,
you know, hopefully make more money, blah,
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::[Robb]: blah. Now, the risk is big though, because
there's generally not going backwards to your
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::[Robb]: position. When
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right,
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::[Robb]: you make
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: right.
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::[Robb]: it to a manager, your next way out is
gone.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: So. you know, what do you do?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: There's a risk there.
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::[Robb]: There's a risk, but it's one of those
ones where you should be willing to fail.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I agree. I've failed so
many times in my life or what I would consider
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a failure. But, you know,
in those times where I had to pull it together
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because life wasn't easy
and it wasn't neatly put together, I learned
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a lot about myself. I learned
a lot about what I wanted, what I didn't want,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: what I could handle, what
I could go through, you know. Geez, it's like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I've learned how to pick
myself up and be like, well, that wasn't the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: smartest thing I've ever
done, but let's try this and we'll go a different
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: direction. And I do challenge
myself often to doing things that I've never
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: done before. Um, but yeah,
there's, there's been some times where, you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, you're just like,
God, that was the stupidest thing I could have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: done. And yet I did it.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And,
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::[Robb]: Hehehe.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and you know, I've bungee
jumped three times. Big risk. It was fun as
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: heck. But like I think
about it now and I'm like, why would I be so
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: stupid? I did one of those
jumps where you jump and your head goes into
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the into the ocean. Like
it hits the it hits the water and then bounces
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: back out. Really? Why?
Why would you take that kind of risk? Again,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it was fun. But looking
back at it, there was no reason to do it. I've
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: never been an adrenaline
junkie. I just did it because I thought I could
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: or. thought I should or
just plain wasn't thinking. I mean, it was
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: fun, but would I do it
again? No, not now that I'm older. I wouldn't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: take that risk when I was
in my 20s. Heck yeah, I would have taken it
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: 100 times.
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::[Robb]: Why do you think people are afraid to
talk about their failures? Because...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because people want to
put their best, their best side out, you know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and, and I think that we're
judged so intensely at times for failing that,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that people like don't
want anybody to know about it. I'm fortunately
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the person that everybody
calls when things do go bad or when they do
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: go good. I've heard I've
been a really good cheerleader, but I've also
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: been like, hey, you did
it. Everything's cool. You know, you made it
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: work and, and it is what
it is. So I fortunately get to hear a lot,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but you know, people when
they say they shouldn't have done it or, or
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they, they they made a
mistake by doing it. I always think, what did
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you learn? Cause apparently
you were put in that situation for a reason.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You had to have learned
something, whether it came out good or bad,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, like it was,
it was happening for a reason in your life.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And there was lessons that
you were to be taught. So do you look at those
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: as a failure or do you
look at those as, as it's, it was a good thing.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It just depends on how
you look at it and
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::[Robb]: Yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: where you're at your life
too. Because like I said, I know now that I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: wouldn't take in kids and
do that again. I've learned what I needed to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: learn. I got the lessons
I needed to get and I'm good to not make those
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: same choices again. And
I do kind of look at it as a failure because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: we are not close and I
don't have that bond or that family that I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: once had. So when I look
at it... Long-term I see that I kind of feel
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like a failure I do But
then if I look at it like okay, nobody else
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: stood up for that kid.
Nobody else was there You were there you did
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: all these things you learned
some hard lessons You always learn hard lessons
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: being a parent doesn't
matter if the kid comes out of you or not,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but um but you know, I
think about it and I'm like, damn, did I need
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to know, did I need to
know how hard it was going to be? Did I really
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to learn all that?
And, uh, I guess, I guess it's all just part
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: of growing up and, you
know, getting by, but I think of all the risks
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I could have taken had
I not chose to do what I was doing.
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::[Robb]: Sure,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So there's also that too.
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::[Robb]: there could have been other things that
you would have different paths you might have
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::[Robb]: went down.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Absolutely.
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::[Robb]: Look, taking risks is what takes you
to the next risk. You have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: to continue in life to take risks. Failure
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes.
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::[Robb]: or not, failures are part of everything.
It's not to make life. seem like a game, but
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::[Robb]: a good sports analogy is always that,
right? You have to be willing to lose to win.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: And we don't do it enough. There's too
many of us who sit on their hands forever and
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::[Robb]: are okay with just being blah or just
being content. And that was me for many,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: A long time,
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::[Robb]: many years.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah. Yeah.
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::[Robb]: Many, many, many years. Like too many,
15 actually. There were times where I was just
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::[Robb]: like no, I didn't wanna move. And my
ex-wife hated that. I was like nope, why? We
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::[Robb]: got a place, let's do this, I don't
wanna leave. And then of course I get divorced,
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::[Robb]: first thing I do is leave the state.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hehehehehehe
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::[Robb]: So there's things to be said with that.
It's kinda like moving where I move now. It
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::[Robb]: was a risk. On a lot of levels. You
know, my kid, you know, had been living in
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::[Robb]: the same place for a long time. It was
the same company, but it was new people. So
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::[Robb]: I had to do that. Um, but it was a risk
we're taking. I got to be on my own again.
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::[Robb]: And, you know, I've talked about my
old roommate a bunch of times. She was awesome.
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::[Robb]: It's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: super great. And I would never, ever
shit on her. She was a great, great girl. It
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::[Robb]: was just time for me to grow up. And
I had. a chance to take a risk to come, you
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::[Robb]: know, far away. I really only have one
friend down the street who's like close that
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::[Robb]: I'm close to. So again, I was going
back to being in a place where I didn't know
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::[Robb]: a lot of people, but the risk I thought
was big, you know, it was worth taking. I was
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::[Robb]: jumping up in pay quite a bit, and now
I have another chance that. So maybe this risk
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::[Robb]: will pay off, or maybe it won't. And
two years from now, I'll be off to somewhere
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::[Robb]: else. I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: don't know. But I was willing to fail.
And that, I think, is the biggest thing. You
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::[Robb]: can't worry about the people around
you and how they're going to take your risk,
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::[Robb]: because it's not theirs.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Exactly.
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::[Robb]: It's yours. And if the friends in your
life aren't willing to pat you on the back
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::[Robb]: a little bit, they should be hesitant.
I think any good friend or any good family
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::[Robb]: member should look at you and kind of
go, hey look, there's an upside but there's
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::[Robb]: a fucking downside. And the downside
is really, really bad. But if you get over
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::[Robb]: the hump of the risk, the risk could
be a really good payoff for you. So. I just
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::[Robb]: think people are too afraid. And again,
I'm not trying to point fingers at anyone who
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::[Robb]: listens to the show, but we all know
that person, that again, it was me. For many,
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::[Robb]: many years, I was content. Why, why
mess with anything? And then you meet certain
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::[Robb]: people, or you get certain job, or you
get this, or you get that. It's like, look
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::[Robb]: at my tattoos. I got most of my tattoos
in my late 40s.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: Nobody does that. When I tell people,
because people will look at me now and they
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::[Robb]: go, man, your tattoos look really good.
I was like, yeah, because they're not very
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::[Robb]: old.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: And they're like, really? And then I
explained to them, and then first of all, most
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::[Robb]: of them don't think I'm as old as I
am, which is even funnier. I was talking to
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::[Robb]: somebody at my work and they're like,
you're 52? And I was like, yeah. And they're
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::[Robb]: like, oh, I thought you were in your
early 40s. I was like, well, cool. It's good
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::[Robb]: to hear.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Cool, forget I said that.
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::[Robb]: Yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Ha ha ha.
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::[Robb]: But they couldn't believe that, you
know, they're like, you got all these tattoos
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::[Robb]: in your late 40s? And I was like, yeah,
because sometimes the risk is worth the reward.
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::[Robb]: Maybe it was just something I had to
do for myself, and we all have to do that.
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::[Robb]: And that's kinda what I'm trying to
tell my kid. It's like, look, you have to live
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::[Robb]: for reality, but you have to take risks.
Because risks are part of that reality. Like,
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::[Robb]: you know. Be safe and be good and don't
do this kind of thing and look at your future
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::[Robb]: realistically. Once you hit 21, 22,
life should start kicking you in the face a
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::[Robb]: little bit. But you have to take a risk
sometimes. It's like me, at one point in my
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::[Robb]: life, I'll either meet someone here
in California, fall in love, and I'll stay
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::[Robb]: here. Or I'm gonna pack up all my shit
and pick a state somewhere else and pick up
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::[Robb]: my life again and go somewhere else.
Because it'll be time to take a risk again.
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::[Robb]: I just don't know yet. But I think everyone
should do that. Failure is important. You need
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::[Robb]: to lose every blue moon to make you
climb that ladder a little bit higher to take
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::[Robb]: the risk.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm
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::[Robb]: Because when you're... When things are
good, and I mean just good, not great, not
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::[Robb]: horrible, just good, you get stagnant
and you end up thinking everything's okay.
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::[Robb]: And maybe it's not, and you're not willing
to see that it's not. That's my divorce thing.
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::[Robb]: I thought, hey, I thought everything
was good. No, everything wasn't good. So.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, I you know, it's
funny because I don't know if I brought this
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: up before but In my life
women tell me all about their husbands and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I always hear them complaining
And when they're complaining i'm like, wow
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: My ex never did that he
never did this he never did that like there's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a list now going because
i'm hearing this so often i'm like so what
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: What made it stop? Like,
why did we leave? Why did we? Because if you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: look at us now, we're really
freaking good friends. Like, we get along very
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: well. Um, we just didn't
want to be married anymore. It got to the point
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: where like, yeah, we're
tapping. But
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: then I, then I hear other
people and the stuff they put up with was way
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: worse than I ever even
could have imagined me putting up with.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And yet I left and they
didn't. And I wonder was it a good move? Was
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it not a good move? Was
it? And I do believe it was a good move. I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: think we needed to do that
to be friends again, because we were just not
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: getting along, but at the
same time, I was like, what was I bitching
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: about? Because it seems
like the majority of women put up with way
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: more bullshit than I ever
did. I really didn't have all that. But again,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's like, what is going
to make you truly happy for yourself? That's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: where you have to go with
things and I've always been the daredevil the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: one that'll try new things
except for moving Now moving for me is not
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: something I want to do
because I take care of everybody in my family
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm the matriarch at this
point and The thought of moving kind of scares
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the bejeebus out of me,
but I want to do it But that's the risk that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm not taking yet
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::[Robb]: You're just not willing to do it yet.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Not yet But will I? I don't
know.
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::[Robb]: And I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It
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::[Robb]: get
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: depends.
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::[Robb]: that. Moving will pucker your asshole
up.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Hahaha!
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::[Robb]: It really will.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: When I moved here, you know, look, I
lived my life knowing what I was gonna make
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::[Robb]: here when I could get by.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right.
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::[Robb]: Actually, I could do more than get by.
I would be okay, or I wouldn't have moved here.
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::[Robb]: But that being said, there's always
the first, I remember the first night here,
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::[Robb]: I sat on my couch in my underwear, when
my kid was in his room, hooking up his video
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::[Robb]: games or some shit. And I remember just
sitting here for a second and going, oh shit,
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::[Robb]: I live alone again. Like I have to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's
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::[Robb]: really
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: all on me.
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::[Robb]: make sure that I'm doing everything
correctly.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: And.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah,
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::[Robb]: It's hard.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I mean, I get you. I remember
when I was five, my parents moved to my, my
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: home that they lived in.
Oh, my dad still lives here. Um, and I do too
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: now, but,
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: um, I remember when we
got here, we, mom put us both to bed in our
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: rooms, my brother and I,
and then I heard her crying. And and dad was
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like don't worry. Well,
we'll make this work. We could do this, you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, it's gonna be hard
but we could do it now I remember her Gosh,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: she was at the time. She
was 24 25 She was so afraid of living here
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and doing things. And I
get why. My grandmother lived right down the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: street and my grandmother,
you know, her kids were all at times a mess
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and that did drip over
into our world. But at the same time, my mom
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was close to her mom and
needed to be there. And we wanted to be close
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to our family as well.
So it was like, it was a risk. Most of the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: family moved away from
everybody else because the family was dysfunctional.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But we stayed. And I look
back on it now, like my cousins are like, why
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: did this happen? And I'm
like, oh, don't you remember so-and-so did
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: this and that, and that's
what happened. And nobody knows because nobody
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was around. Here I am right
down the street. We were on the same block
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: as my grandmother, just
opposite sides of the street. And man, I know
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: so much about the family
that I never thought. was even a secret until
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I talked to my other cousins
and they're like, I didn't know that. I didn't
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know that makes sense.
You know, but I remember my mom that risk of
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: living here and going through
that, I remember she cried that night. My dad
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was like, hey, we bought
a house. It's okay. Like everything's going
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to be cool. But at the
time they lived before this house, we lived
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in a house in Northridge,
which was at the time very upscale and we had
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a huge yard and the houses
now are going through like I think it's like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: 1.7 million. And so I mean
it was a huge house and a big house in the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: LA area and she they downgraded.
to this house because they couldn't afford
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: property taxes and they
had to buy it with my uncle. My uncle stayed
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in the back house. And
so when they finally could move, the house
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was much smaller than the
last one. And, and, They risked it. You know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they left knowing that
they had a small, a smaller home and a small
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: family and they weren't
in the same neighborhood and they weren't going
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to have me go to the same
schools. And lo and behold, all these years
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: later, this is this is
like the hub for all of our family on both
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sides. Not only that, but
friends still friends still now because they
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know I'm back here. They
still go in the gate and knock on my window
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I open the window.
I'm like, what the hell are you doing here?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: They don't just show up.
So it's like, I look at that risk that mom
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and dad took back then,
and I'm glad they did because we really do
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have a good community here
of, of family and friends and, and lifelong
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: people, not just, you know,
people from the last five years, we got a huge
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: group of people that we've
been friends with 20, 30, 40 years. So. You
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, I was looking at
that. I'm like, okay, so that risk paid off.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But if I would have asked
my mom, would she have said yes, that it did
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: pay off? I don't know.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, perception is
a bitch sometimes, but I've been looking at
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: these things because I'm
at a crossroads with everything in my life
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I'm like, here I go
again. I'm not afraid to take risks. I'm pretty
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: good at it and I'm intelligent
enough to handle myself, but It's also scary
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because now, you know,
at our age, there's not a lot of time to fix
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: real big fuckups.
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::[Robb]: Well, that's the thing, is it worth
it?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: You know, as you get older, I can see
why people stay stagnant, because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: it's safer. Because people like to live
in a safety net. And look, I get that part,
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::[Robb]: I really do. Being in a safe place is
easier, but are you living? I think those are
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::[Robb]: the bigger things as well, like the
risk to live. Like sometimes you just, you
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::[Robb]: have to go on the leap of faith, right?
You have to look at the river and are you gonna
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::[Robb]: jump across it? Are you gonna stay on
the one side and go, well, I don't like this
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::[Robb]: side. This side's okay and I'm getting
by, but there might be something on that other
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::[Robb]: side that's worth going. I always love
the, you know, is the grass greener? Right?
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::[Robb]: And everyone will tell you the grass
isn't always greener. And this is what I say,
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::[Robb]: sometimes you have to hop the wall to
see what the grass looks like. If you're not
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::[Robb]: willing to hop over the fence to look
at the grass, you can't bitch about your yard.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, I was also told that
the grass is green is where you water it, where
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you put your time in, where
you put your effort in, where you put your
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: love into. That's where
it's going to be greener. So it really doesn't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: matter one way or another.
It's where you're going to make the effort
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and
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::[Robb]: Right,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: take the care.
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::[Robb]: but if the grass is already turning
brown, you know that the grass isn't green
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::[Robb]: on your side, you're just hoping that
the shade on the other side is better. But
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yep.
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::[Robb]: unless you take the risk, you'll never
know what that shade of green is, or shade
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::[Robb]: of brown for that matter. You might
hop the fence and it's dead.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: You know what I mean? And that's our
life. And... I think the risks are 99% of the
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::[Robb]: time worth taking. Because the failures
are going to come and they're gonna come in
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::[Robb]: every single thing you do.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: It could be as easy as backing out of
your driveway and smacking a car across the
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::[Robb]: street. That's a fucking fail. But,
you know, what do you do? Ah, shit, go. The
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::[Robb]: next day you gotta still back out. You
gotta continue
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: to back out for the rest of your life.
So, unless you're willing to take the risk,
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::[Robb]: and some risks people aren't ready for,
I'm not ready to jump out of an airplane yet.
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::[Robb]: Before I die, I'll probably jump out
of an airplane. And
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Do
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::[Robb]: I'm
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it
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::[Robb]: not
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sooner
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::[Robb]: even... And...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: than later because it gets
harder to do as you get older.
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::[Robb]: And I'm not a thrill junkie. I watched
my ex-wife do it and she did it.
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::[Robb]: My boy was born already, he was probably
three. So she was like in her late 30s. She
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::[Robb]: loved it. The funny thing is that she
loved the free fall, hated when the parachute
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::[Robb]: opened. She said it was boring. Now
here's a flip side. I would probably
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Boring.
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::[Robb]: be the polar opposite. Yeah, because
I think she liked the thrill of the fall. The
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::[Robb]: photographer in me wants to see the
beauty of the world as you're coming down because
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::[Robb]: we're not supposed to fly, we don't
have wings.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right.
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::[Robb]: And I think I would probably enjoy the
free fall a little bit, but I think, and again,
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::[Robb]: I think when the parachute opens, is
the part where you're like, hoo. The risk paid
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::[Robb]: off, I'm gonna make it to the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Thank
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::[Robb]: bottom.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: God that opened.
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::[Robb]: But I think the other thing is the beauty,
right? So I think there's beauty in risks.
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::[Robb]: You just have to see them. And your
risk isn't going to make everyone happy. And
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::[Robb]: it's not supposed to. It's supposed
to make you happy. And sometimes there's repercussions
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::[Robb]: to that risk. Family will be mad at
you. friends will be mad at you. You know how
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::[Robb]: many people I've heard that have gotten
relationships that've ruined friendships? I
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::[Robb]: can't believe that you're going with
him. I can't believe you're going with her.
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::[Robb]: And friends who've been friends for
25 years end up not talking with each other
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::[Robb]: anymore. So, and then maybe you take
a risk in a relationship where you're trying
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::[Robb]: to be with somebody and it doesn't work
out and you never talk ever again. I mean,
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::[Robb]: to me that's fail, but it's part of
taking the risk. Sometimes it happens and it's
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::[Robb]: sad. Some risks
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't
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::[Robb]: don't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, I
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::[Robb]: end
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: think
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::[Robb]: well.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: failing is staying in the
relationship when you know it's not working
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for either of you and you
stay in it and you stay in it and you're unhappy
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but you live that life
because you signed up for it. That's where
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I think the fail comes
in. I don't think the fail is a big deal if
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're trying to just live
your best life and do whatever you got to do
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to make yourself happy
or to make yourself better or to learn more,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: try more. you know, just
have a more enriched life. Like if you don't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: take, if you don't take
the risks, you're not going to have anything
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: different.
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::[Robb]: All right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're going to go through
your life dealing with the same thing at the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: same time and learning
the same lessons and not, not ever like freeing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: your soul. Because I think
that's part of it. For me, it's like, let's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just see if I could do
this. It may totally blow up, and it has. I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: mean, it has. Big situations
in my life have blown up righteously. But I've
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: always learned something.
And the
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::[Robb]: Oh
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: biggest
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::[Robb]: yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: thing that I've learned
is that I could still freaking manage. Like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I could still put myself
in this situation. I could still be going,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: oh my God, how am I going
to do this? But at the end of it all, I have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: learned that I am capable
more than I've ever given myself credit. So
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I do take a lot more risks
than I would say most people just because I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know I'll figure out a
way to get out of it or figure out a way to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: make it work or.
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, do whatever I
gotta do.
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::[Robb]: you'll get to the other side, no
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Somehow,
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::[Robb]: matter how,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: someway.
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::[Robb]: right? And I think that's the big thing
about like being okay with failure, that you
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::[Robb]: understand that failure can come, but
it's not the end game. You know.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm, and I don't go
into anything thinking I'm gonna fail either
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I go in like I'm gonna
do this Like
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::[Robb]: Sure.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I got this I got this I
can handle it. I don't always handle it
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::[Robb]: Well,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: shit happens
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::[Robb]: look, we all don't handle it. I mean,
let's be honest. And again, I'm okay with that.
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::[Robb]: I think what people should get from
this is that it's okay to fail when taking
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::[Robb]: a risk. It's okay.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm. It's necessary.
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::[Robb]: That's probably the best thing we've
said today. It sometimes is a necessary evil
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::[Robb]: to fail. to get on to whatever the thing
is that's going to enhance your life and be
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::[Robb]: the positive part.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Let's think of all the
things. Silly putty wasn't supposed to be silly
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: putty.
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::[Robb]: Right?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It was a failure and it
turned into what a big children's toy that
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::[Robb]: Yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: everybody's played with
or
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::[Robb]: Penicillin.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, there you go.
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::[Robb]: Penicillin was just something left in
a fucking refrigerator that became
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: mold that now saves the planet.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: So,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So you think
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::[Robb]: yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: about all the, all the
things that, you know, even post-it notes came
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: from an adhesive that they
were
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::[Robb]: Eh.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: using for the, for the
space shuttle, if I'm not
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::[Robb]: Yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: mistaken. And it didn't
work, but here everybody use post-it notes
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: now.
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::[Robb]: And it
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: So.
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::[Robb]: was just some guy who decided to do
it.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, it's just somebody
trying to take a risk.
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::[Robb]: Well, I mean, for modern times, it's
Google, Amazon,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: Facebook. These are all risks that paid
off. But the failure rate of most of those
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::[Robb]: is probably quite large. But
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
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::[Robb]: people are still willing to do it. And
I think that's big. It's like doing this. You
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::[Robb]: know, right now, the payout's not the
greatest. but the risk of doing it was fun.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: The only risk in doing our podcast was,
are we gonna make it past 10?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, no, I think for me,
the risk was being vulnerable and telling everybody
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the stupid shit that I
was doing.
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::[Robb]: Well, yeah, that's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That
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::[Robb]: very
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was
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::[Robb]: true.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that for me was the risk.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I've had to answer
for some of the things I've said on this program
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to people
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::[Robb]: Uh
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in my
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::[Robb]: huh.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: life. And yeah, that wasn't
my happiest moment, but you know, it ended
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: up being OK. Again,
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the risk was OK.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, for me as well, I mean, I think
that most of the people who know me that listen,
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::[Robb]: or already knew that I was gonna say
crazy shit, because that's just who I am, but
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::[Robb]: the few people who are new listeners,
like people that you know that I've talked
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::[Robb]: to, like your friend in Tennessee, it's
interesting to see how other people take it,
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::[Robb]: and it's a small risk for me, but still
a risk nonetheless. But people who I talk about
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::[Robb]: on this show who do listen, it's still
a risk. But nothing's malicious. I don't think
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::[Robb]: I ever, I do my best not to bury people
or say bad things. I'm just being open. And
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::[Robb]: thankfully, the few people who know
that it's about them really are good and have
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::[Robb]: no problem saying like, hey, this or
that. And it's been multiple people who have
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::[Robb]: said things, like, oh, is this me? Or,
oh, you were talking about this guy. It's like,
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::[Robb]: yeah, I was talking about him. And it's
good. And I think that people should look at
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::[Robb]: risks with not a grain of salt, but
with something of a smile at the end. whether
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::[Robb]: it takes you two months, two years,
six months, or six years, the payoff is still
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::[Robb]: the payoff.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: You may have to be in a lot of mud and
a lot of shit for a little while, but hopefully
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::[Robb]: at the very end you realize like, hey,
it took a lot of turns to get there, but it
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::[Robb]: was worth the risk.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, even like you said
the podcast, you know, I've we've been doing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: this for over a year We
hit 102 I think episodes 103 something
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::[Robb]: Almost
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like that
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::[Robb]: two years, I think.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Almost two years. Okay
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::[Robb]: think.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And and uh, I was worried
about you know, what my dad would say. He's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: never listened My ex
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::[Robb]: Hehehehe
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: would say he listened to
one episode that was like the easiest one to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: listen to
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::[Robb]: Right?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: um, you know most of the
people that i've even mentioned my brother
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: doesn't listen, my cousins
don't listen, it's funny because they all know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they all are very aware
that I do it and yet nobody listens and I think,
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::[Robb]: We gotta get them to listen.
752
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: why do they not want to
listen? Like what do they think I'm gonna say
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: or what do they think I've
even said? You know, so I've taken this risk
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: knowing that I wasn't gonna
get any support.
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, I just did it
and said, I'm going to do it with Rob. And
758
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that's that. And that's
what I've been doing. So it's, um, I don't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know. I think it's always
a good thing for you to take a risk. Just know
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that when you're taking
it, it may not be a popular opinion. You know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you may not get, you may
not get people happy with you for doing what
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're doing, but the end
result should be, you should still do what,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: what calls you.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, you have to be true to yourself.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: And I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I
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::[Robb]: think
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: agree.
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::[Robb]: that's what taking risks and willing
to fail are. And just so you know, we started
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::[Robb]: in September of 2021.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: We're almost two years
into
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::[Robb]: Almost
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: this,
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::[Robb]: two
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: holy
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::[Robb]: years
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: crap.
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::[Robb]: now. So, but any last words here on
our program?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Even if it's uncomfortable,
still do it. Make a mistake, live your life,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: enjoy what you're doing,
but do take risks. Do, do give yourself something
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to wake up for. Cause I
think that's so important. Waking up for work
783
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: every day isn't what should
drive your, your desires. You know what I mean?
784
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like you
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: should find more. You should
try more. You should do more. You should definitely
787
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: screw things up sometimes.
God only knows I've done it a few hundred,
788
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but. That's neither here
nor there. But you know, I really because of
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: what I've gone through
and because of what I've experienced I believe
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that when people talk to
me they feel okay to say anything because they
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know that i'm not judging
them Because they weren't perfect because I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: wasn't perfect They just
know that i'm going to listen to them. I and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: i'll even tell them let
me pop some popcorn I want to hear the whole
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: story, you know, let me
let me learn from you or let me hear what you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: went through Let me see
You fail because it's still going to be okay.
796
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You're still going to get
through it and let's Let's start talking about
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not being so perfect and
not having to have all the answers because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I still don't have the
answers and I still don't know what i'm doing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and i'm at a crossroads
in my life Which is what this is the scary
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: point. I'm like everything
I do is a risk right now So i'm like what happens
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if I screw these up? That's
what initially started this whole this
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: whole conversation was
what am I going to mess up next?
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::[Robb]: Well,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: We'll see.
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::[Robb]: whatever you mess up is gonna springboard
you to something else.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, that's true.
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::[Robb]: So my only thing is look, failure is
an option and sometimes it leads you to the
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::[Robb]: better things in life.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And for me, I believe failure
is not taking the risks.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, that's the best way of putting
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: it. We'll go with that. And yeah, check
out our socials, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
814
::[Robb]: make sure to check us out on all those
social, social media Jesus, on all the podcasting
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::[Robb]: formats. The better ones would be probably
Apple and Spotify because it's easier to track.
816
::[Robb]: And yeah, leave a rating. Say something
about us on there. If you're going on Apple
817
::[Robb]: or if you're going on Spotify, leave
a message behind, give us a star rating. It
818
::[Robb]: helps us get the word out. And it's
an opinion show, so don't get it twisted. Keep
819
::[Robb]: coming back every Wednesday and we'll
have more fun stuff to talk about. Tina, it's
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::[Robb]: been a pleasure as always. And we will
talk to you next week.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Have a good one, Rob.
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::[Robb]: You too, bye.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: See ya.
