Episode 101
EP #101- Why it's so hard to be a man today.
Welcome back to Dont get this Twisted
The conversation explores the challenges and loneliness that men face in society. It discusses the importance of men in traditional gender roles and the impact of divorce and co-parenting on fatherhood. The conversation also delves into the push to weaken masculinity and the need to embrace and support men. It emphasizes the importance of balance and acceptance in society and the need to understand our place in nature. The conversation explores the importance of strong men in society and the need for men to embrace traditional masculinity. It emphasizes the role of men in relationships and the attraction to masculine traits.
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Transcript
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::[Robb]: And welcome to another show. Don't get
this twisted. I am Rob along with my co-host
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::[Robb]: as always Tina. How you doing Tina?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm good, Rob, how are
you?
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::[Robb]: Oh, absolutely pleasant. It's warm today.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It is for the first time
in a long time.
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::[Robb]: It's gonna be, I think it's pretty yucky
outside. It's only
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah,
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::[Robb]: 77
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's gonna give it
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::[Robb]: now.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to us.
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::[Robb]: It's supposed to be like 85 today. Only
for a day though. Only for today and it's supposed
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::[Robb]: to cool down tomorrow, so who knows.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That's good. I have a lot
of people coming over for Father's Day. And
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: by
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::[Robb]: Yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the way, Happy Father's
Day. We
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::[Robb]: Yes,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: got Father's Day going
on.
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::[Robb]: that's correct. I forgot
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It'll
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::[Robb]: about
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: be
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::[Robb]: that.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: after, well, it'll be over
by the time we air
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::[Robb]: Yes.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: this. But to all you fathers
that are listening, Happy Father's Day.
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::[Robb]: Correct,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Thank
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::[Robb]: that's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you
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::[Robb]: right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for doing what you do.
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::[Robb]: Thanks for being dads, because being
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: a dad sometimes isn't easy.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I say thank you for
doing what you do because there's so many things
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to try to name them just
wouldn't be right. So,
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::[Robb]: And
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah.
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::[Robb]: we can actually kind of throw that into
the discussion today of how hard it is to be
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::[Robb]: a man sometimes, because I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: think that's, I sent you a video of
a trans man, so someone who used to be a woman
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::[Robb]: who transitioned and did like a TikTok
or some kind of shit like that where they talked
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::[Robb]: about how hard it is to be a man.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: So I thought we would
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know.
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::[Robb]: play that.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Go
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::[Robb]: Mm hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: ahead.
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::[Robb]: Should we play
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I
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::[Robb]: it
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was
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::[Robb]: first?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: gonna say,
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::[Robb]: OK,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah, go ahead.
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::[Robb]: all right here, let's play this real
quick. Nobody told me how lonely. Being a man
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::[Robb]: is at closer friendships with random
women, I met in the bathroom before I transitioned
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::[Robb]: at clubs because of how open women are
than I've had. in my eight years of transitioning
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::[Robb]: because women are just so much more
vulnerable and deep than men. But to have known,
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::[Robb]: and I think a lot of trans men feel
this, is we knew what depth felt like before
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::[Robb]: we transitioned. We knew what it felt
like to have people want to hug us and to have
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::[Robb]: people want to talk to us. and have
a community and then you transition and you're
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::[Robb]: just a guy walking down the street that
people cross the street so that they're not
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::[Robb]: me or you. And friendships are so much
harder to build. And people are colder. What's
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::[Robb]: hard is none of this invalidates how
real and raw women and people who are in marginalized
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::[Robb]: groups feel about cis white men. All
of that's valid. But I also now understand
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::[Robb]: why the suicide rate is so much higher
in men. Cause this shit is lonely. Nobody told
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::[Robb]: me how lonely being a man is. I had
closer friendships with random women
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: We
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::[Robb]: I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: got
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::[Robb]: met.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it going
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::[Robb]: This
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: on a second
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::[Robb]: is a headline
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: time.
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::[Robb]: from- So obviously, um, someone who
lived as a woman for so long. and then transitioned
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::[Robb]: to be a man, now lives in the world
of the reality of being a man. It kind of hit
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::[Robb]: me hard when he was talking about how
easy it is to have relationships between girls,
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::[Robb]: and I think that that's probably very
true, where he talked about saying, oh. you
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::[Robb]: know, I could get a hug or I could do
this, because I think female relationships
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::[Robb]: are like that. They're way closer than
men, where it's just not the normal that men
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::[Robb]: have that kind of relationship. And
we do, I think most men generally handle things
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::[Robb]: alone.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: They don't go to their friends and lean
on them for... the same
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: anything
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::[Robb]: as women do.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: right
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::[Robb]: I think that they will, but like I'll
lean on some people, but I generally hold it
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::[Robb]: in, or there's a very small select group
of people that I'll bounce things off of that
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::[Robb]: are men. I have, and I'll say that with
females as well, there's a very small group
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::[Robb]: either way, but I definitely think men
hold things in. wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, I didn't realize
that growing up and I grew up with a bunch
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: of really solid men, but
now that I've gotten older and in dealing with
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: people on a, on a deeper
level, I would say, um, I'm noticing that like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I didn't, when I was growing
up, it was understood that a man was supposed
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to make the money and the
women were pretty much supposed to take care
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: of the kids. Right. But
I didn't realize in, in being the one to take
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in the money, you're not
seeing your kids, you're not seeing your wife,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're not getting the
joy out of raising your children because you're
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: busy working to support
them. It never really dawned on me how that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: would have felt. You know,
even when my dad has said things or my brother
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: said things, I was like,
I never even looked at it that way because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the way we were presented
things was so this and that, you know, it wasn't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: up for... for a thought
even, plus not being a man, I had no idea.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But seeing now that I having
friendships with men that work a lot and they
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't get to see their
family, they don't get to be there for important
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: things, like I really feel
for them now because all that effort doesn't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: get them any further in
life with subjects to the heart, but they still
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have to do what they have
to do and they're expected to. And that's just
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: my own view on how it was
supposed to be, or my views with it, you know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: what I was raised with.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, I think we both were raised with
the same thing.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Ahem.
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::[Robb]: Because our dads are of that age period,
right? They're coming out of World War II dads,
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::[Robb]: right?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in Vietnam.
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::[Robb]: So, well, Vietnam for them, but they're
coming out of World War II fathers, their fathers,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Gotcha, gotcha.
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::[Robb]: right? So they're coming from that very
much mom stayed at home and raised the kids
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::[Robb]: and dad. did whatever it took to take
care of the family.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes.
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::[Robb]: Like my grandfather lived in Tennessee,
but hitchhiked across the country to Detroit
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::[Robb]: to work in car factories so he could
send money back to Tennessee so he could raise
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::[Robb]: his family. To the point where like
my grandfather slept in cemeteries. So he didn't
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::[Robb]: have to spend any
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Wow.
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::[Robb]: money on a hotel room. So crazy, totally
different generation. But I think now men are
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::[Robb]: still held to that high regard, right?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Absolutely.
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::[Robb]: And we've talked about it before where
they have independent women. Like I'm going
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::[Robb]: to go work and I'm going to do this,
but you're still up on this level of you need
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::[Robb]: to do this, and this. So we're.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: With women's lib though,
they made men completely wrong and women completely
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: right. And men were the
ones that inflicted all this on them. and so
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they had to fight against
men. And in doing so, it's tilted the level
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: on the other end. Like
men, if they're back on their child support,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: can't leave the country
because their passports get taken away and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: their licenses get taken
away. And if that's not enough, if they can't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: drive and they're already
stuck in a hole because they're not working
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: or whatever's going on
that they can't, and then you add All of that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: impounding a car for 30
days. Like that's what they do. That's what
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they do. If you don't have
your bill paid up. And it, the all or nothing,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the black or white way
of thinking for any one group. is ridiculous
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because there's always
exceptions to the rule. There's always times
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when things just, he, you
know, he may really be trying, but he's got
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: some bad luck going on.
Why is that not taken into consideration? I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: think, I think men are
not the problem now. I kind of think it's women
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: because women feel like
they could victimize a man now and we're not
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: getting to the heart of
the matter, which is we need to start being
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: kind to everybody. Everybody
needs to have a level playing field.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I think that in that
men, men should be, they should be nurtured
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: enough by women that they
feel that they could be open with somebody.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And we're going through
this generation where guys don't feel that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: way. And it's scary. It's
scary.
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::[Robb]: For sure.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Because men are our strength.
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::[Robb]: I mean, they should be, that should
be the provider protector. Those are the things
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::[Robb]: that men thrive on
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: even physically
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::[Robb]: in a society.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's who they are.
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::[Robb]: Right, but in a more, in society, since
the dawn of time, we've had these positions
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::[Robb]: where
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm
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::[Robb]: men, we are, we're provider protectors,
we're hunters, we're gatherers, that's what
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::[Robb]: we do. And as we've gotten... you know,
technology and these things, we've switched
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::[Robb]: those things, but there still should
be a blueprint for that. Like, there's nothing
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::[Robb]: wrong with men taking care of their
children. I'm a single dad.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-mm.
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::[Robb]: I had him since he was six. I took care
of him. That's, it's not that it can't be done,
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::[Robb]: but the social
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, but
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::[Robb]: norm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that it's lonely being
done,
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::[Robb]: Oh no
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I think
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::[Robb]: it
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is
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::[Robb]: is!
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: more of the more of the
part I didn't see, you know, because my mom
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: was always the one to show
up to the school things. My dad just heard
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: about them. But
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: now that my mom's gone,
and my brother and I are telling my dad stories
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: about what went on, he's
like, I had no idea. Here I was raising you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: guys and had no freaking
clue all of these things were going on.
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::[Robb]: Right. Well, and just imagine if I was
the other side of that equation where I didn't
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::[Robb]: have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Right?
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::[Robb]: my kid all the time, I couldn't imagine
not having my kid. So dads that are out there
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::[Robb]: who unfortunately get the deadbeat tag
that are trying, they want to see their kid.
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::[Robb]: They're They're limited by every other
weekend, or they're limited by an angry ex
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::[Robb]: who now is putting the thumbscrews to
them because they can't pay the absurd amount
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::[Robb]: that the courts
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yes.
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::[Robb]: have thrown their way. Where instead
of just saying, look, let me see what I can
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::[Robb]: do and we should be able to help each
other. If you're a single mom, and again, I'm
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::[Robb]: jaded, take care of your kid, it's your
job.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm. Yep, I agree with
that.
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::[Robb]: Whether he's there or not, doesn't matter.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You had them, it's your
job to make sure you provide.
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::[Robb]: Correct.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Period.
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::[Robb]: And I took mine and I've said it a million
times on here. I got no child support, zero.
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::[Robb]: And we made an agreement for that. And
I'm okay with it. My job was to take care of
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::[Robb]: my kid. That's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: period. And when I needed something,
I didn't have to argue with my ex. Now, if
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::[Robb]: you're a deadbeat dad and you don't
wanna give money for shoes, then you're just
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::[Robb]: a fucking idiot. And
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: you deserve what comes to you. But if
you're there and you're trying and you want
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::[Robb]: to see your child, stop using them as
a pawn. It's nonsense because it's just damaging
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::[Robb]: men. We're just doing more and more
to them to make them not want to do anything.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, because if you're
damned if you do and you're damned if you
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't, you might as well
take the path of least resist, you know,
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::[Robb]: Exactly.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: resistance.
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::[Robb]: That's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Why would
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::[Robb]: exactly
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you want
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::[Robb]: it.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to get all caught up in,
in somebody's bullshit and telling you you're,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you're wrong all the time?
I, you know, so since I've, since I've been
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: single and having friends
that are single and I could go out more than,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: than normal, um, talking
to men and hearing like their stories and,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: um, the scene how they
struggle never really thought about all these
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: things that are coming
up we were we were basically raised when women's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: lib was kickin ass you
know what i mean and men deserved it because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they were really at the
time taking advantage of shit and not you know
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not doing what they needed
to do to take care of the responsibilities
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: i get why it started But
at some point, what we need to expect from
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: everybody is that they
do right by their children and each other and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: themselves by working as
a team, the one that they were easily putting
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: together to have the baby,
they should be able to easily work on every
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: day to make sure that everything
is supported. Not just, well, I did my part.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, that's not. 50 rule
in a relationship. It doesn't exist. You know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it's like nobody just has
to do 50%. That's not the way it rolls. So
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but what I'm seeing now
is how unfair it is to men, how life in general
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is and then you throw on
the loneliness like I never thought about that.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But you're right because
girls go into the bathroom and they talk I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hate going into a public
bathroom because I don't want to talk to anybody.
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But But when a man, and
this is what I understand from my ex, when
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a man goes in to go to
the bathroom, they skip at least one urinal.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: They try to go completely
as far away from the next guy as possible.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, I get why, but I
also understand, yeah, there is a smaller community
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for them to be able to
reach out to.
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::[Robb]: Yeah,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And that,
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::[Robb]: there's no small talk in a men's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: yeah.
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::[Robb]: bathroom. I mean, maybe at a club,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: All the
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::[Robb]: maybe.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: things we're saying makes
it sound dirty. There's
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::[Robb]: Right,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: no
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::[Robb]: but
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: small talk.
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::[Robb]: yeah, exactly. I mean, I can probably
see it at a club, but they're usually probably
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::[Robb]: just talking about women. Right? I could
see, and again, call me wrong, because I'm
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::[Robb]: not positive. I've never hung out in
a women's bathroom in a club, but I'm guessing
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::[Robb]: that if someone's having a bad night,
walks into the bathroom and starts crying,
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::[Robb]: there's a community there to find out
what's wrong.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Somebody will. I'll try
to sneak out but... Heheheheh Mm-hmm
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::[Robb]: No, but in general, if a dude walks
into a men's bathroom and starts crying, people
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::[Robb]: are letting him sit on the floor and
cry. I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: guarantee it. They don't want none of
that shit. It's not their business. They skip
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::[Robb]: town. Now, that's bad from a man's standpoint.
I think there should be more of a community
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::[Robb]: of men saying, hey, like, get your chin
up. You know, what's wrong?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: see men say suck it up
even to each other.
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::[Robb]: Well, yes. No,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like
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::[Robb]: I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when
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::[Robb]: agree.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you say chin up, that means
suck it up, you know, and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: As much as I think as a
society women need to take a lot of the responsibility
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for men feeling so lonely
and everything. So do men. Like you got to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: support, women support
each other so men should say, you know,
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::[Robb]: But
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: something.
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::[Robb]: I just think that it's built into our
DNA. This is thousands of years. This isn't,
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::[Robb]: like, people think that it's a small
sliver of what we are. We're talking four,
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::[Robb]: 5,000 years of DNA of men having to
do whatever it took to make sure that the family
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::[Robb]: survived. And I'm talking
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Get
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::[Robb]: like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that.
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::[Robb]: way back.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: But even now. Like to me, you have to
look at the reality of what's going on. I'm,
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::[Robb]: I hate to say that I'm lonely, but I
am lonely because now I have a man that lives
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::[Robb]: in the house who's, stays in his room
all the time and rarely chats with me and really
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::[Robb]: doesn't talk to me about life. Almost
nothing.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: Because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And you're a talker, so
it's gotta be lonely.
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::[Robb]: Yeah,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm
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::[Robb]: so
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like
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::[Robb]: f-
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that with my niece and
nephew. They're not big talkers. And I force
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it out of them. I literally
say, so I'm sitting here for the next hour
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: with my niece and nephew.
Whether we interact will be on them. But if
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they put their phones down,
there may be a 20 in it for them. Like I do
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: stuff like that as I'm
sitting with them to get their attention.
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: They don't make me pay
them. Which is cool.
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::[Robb]: I just think that, like my son talks.
I just think that he's, you know, he's his
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::[Robb]: own person now, which separates things.
And I don't have a significant other, so I
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::[Robb]: am lonely. But I try to fill my time
with whatever I can to keep my mind from going
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::[Robb]: down roads they shouldn't. Because
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::[Robb]: you know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: right.
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::[Robb]: what do they say? The idle time is the
devil's something or other?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Tools?
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::[Robb]: You know, it's like...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, what is it? I thought
it was idle hands.
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::[Robb]: No, it's idle time is the devil something.
But
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't know.
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::[Robb]: I just think that we have to get to
a point where we stop looking at men like that.
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::[Robb]: And I don't know how it's gonna happen
because society now wants to weaken the modern
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::[Robb]: man. They almost pushing us out of whatever
it took because women can now do everything.
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::[Robb]: Right? Like, and I had a small argument
with somebody about like that one time. They
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::[Robb]: were like, you know, we don't need men.
And I was like, cool, who's going to build
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::[Robb]: your roads? Who's going to go fix the
electrical wires? Who's going to go, you know,
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::[Robb]: jump in the piles of shit when your
plumbing doesn't work? It's not women. And
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::[Robb]: and people will say, well, women do
those jobs. It's a minute, very, very small
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::[Robb]: fraction. And we're talking almost none.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: They don't do enough that
it would take to make everybody's plumbing
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: work in a given day.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm, yes. So, oh, here it is, idle
time is the devil's playground, which makes
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::[Robb]: sense because when you have tons of
time to think about things, you start thinking
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::[Robb]: bad thoughts. That's what that should
go for. I just think that we need to get back
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::[Robb]: to a point where it's like, look, we
need men. We need women. We're equally as important
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::[Robb]: in. functioning societies.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: We're the balance.
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::[Robb]: The yin
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Both
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::[Robb]: and yang.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: together are the balance,
yes.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, it's a yin and yang,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: it is. Like I told you the one time,
like look, if you live alone and you're a female,
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::[Robb]: you have no choice but to defend yourself.
So if there's a racket in the middle of the
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::[Robb]: night, it's up to you to check on it.
But in a relationship, The man should be the
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::[Robb]: one going because he's supposed to be
the protector of the family. That's his job
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::[Robb]: to make sure his kids and his wife or
girlfriend are taken care of. It's that thing
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::[Robb]: where I heard a Steve Harvey...
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::[Robb]: bit today, I was listening to a podcast,
and he does a bit where he talks about his
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::[Robb]: wife and that he was with her as a young
man, and then they didn't see each other for
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::[Robb]: like 20 years, and then they got back
together and got married. And he looks at her
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::[Robb]: and he goes, I will kill everyone in
this arena for you.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: And that's the reality. It's like, it
doesn't matter. Like, before something happens
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::[Robb]: to you, everyone in here's dying. I'm
dying to make sure you make it, you know, out
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::[Robb]: of that. So men are being looked at
now as throwaways, like we don't need them.
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::[Robb]: And truly you do, because in a functioning
society of birthing people, you have to have
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::[Robb]: a man and you have to have a woman,
regardless of what the media likes to tell
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::[Robb]: you that you can be either. It's nonsense.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: We...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: No, it's true.
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::[Robb]: Biology will trump you every time.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: So you look at someone who used to be
a woman in that clip we played, who now has
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::[Robb]: the hard reality of what it's like to
be a man every single day. It's not easy, and
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::[Robb]: we're getting bashed more and more to
where we don't want to be in relationships.
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::[Robb]: We've talked about that on another podcast
where it's getting harder and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And
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::[Robb]: harder
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: God
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::[Robb]: to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: forbid
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::[Robb]: even want to get in
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you
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::[Robb]: it.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just be heterosexual, white,
and educated. God forbid.
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::[Robb]: Yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like what is going on where
doing what we were taught was right to do,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: which was go to school,
get educated, you know, try to try to fit the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: mold, do your job and everything.
Since when did that become a bad thing?
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::[Robb]: when the modern media and some agenda
push that forward. Like when that dude used
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::[Robb]: the word sis, I hate that fucking term.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: What does CIS even mean?
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::[Robb]: It's the other, it's their way of saying
straight people. Which
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: They could
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::[Robb]: which
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just say
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::[Robb]: I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: straight, because then
we wouldn't have to Google all this shit
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::[Robb]: Well,
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::[Robb]: I and again, I get shit and i'll probably
get shit from friends that I know that hear
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::[Robb]: this It means to me. It means normal
Because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: that's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: When you
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::[Robb]: the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: said
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::[Robb]: societal
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: normal, that kind of, that
kind of stuck a, kind of stuck a nerve with
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: me. Cause what really is
normal? It
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::[Robb]: It's...
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: depends on when you grew
up and what your
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::[Robb]: Hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: bar was set for you. That's,
that's how I see it. Cause normal for me, isn't
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: normal for you.
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::[Robb]: No, but the societal normal. We're talking
about the mass majority of what human beings
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::[Robb]: think. That's the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't
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::[Robb]: societal
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know that that's
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::[Robb]: normal.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: really normal when you
turn on. I can't go. I don't watch TV, but
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if I'm with my dad and
my cousin and I'm out there, all I of course
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm watching it
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and every commercial has
two men kissing.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Every commercial has, um,
a black parent and a white parent. Every, every
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: show has something on it.
And to me personally, I don't care, but I'm
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: cool to not see anybody
kissing on a normal. on a normal nighttime
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: show, you know, like we're
not talking, we're talking on local media,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: we're not talking on cable
television, we're talking normal network TV.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I'm sitting with my
niece and my nephew. I don't want to watch
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that around them.
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::[Robb]: Right.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, I it's uncomfortable
for me. And I know that they if it goes on
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in their world, cool, they're
okay with it, but it didn't go on in my world
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like that. And I'm not
okay with it. Not that I think that we need
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to hide who we are. I'm
not saying that I'm just saying does it have
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to be so in our face?
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::[Robb]: Well, like I said, people hate when,
because I use the word normal all the time,
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::[Robb]: because it's a societal, I don't care,
because that's the reality of the world. And
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::[Robb]: I'm talking about every continent on
this planet.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: If you think I'm wrong, look at continents
other than Western societies. So no Australia,
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::[Robb]: no England, no America. Go to Africa.
and talk about and say, sis, they'll be like,
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::[Robb]: you mean everyone else, because everyone
else is the other part of the equation. It's
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::[Robb]: the smaller bit. So, and again, I'm
not throwing shade or trying to be a dick or
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::[Robb]: trying to be mean, but normal society,
and I'm talking about every regular normal
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::[Robb]: society on this planet thinks that way.
there are always gonna be outliers, and that's
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::[Robb]: okay. And I'm not saying that we shouldn't
have those. There should be diversity, because
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::[Robb]: there really is diversity in the world.
But to put someone who's gay on every show,
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::[Robb]: it's not realistic. Because if you're
4% of the country, you're really not 4% of
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::[Robb]: everything.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: But now it's being pushed that, again,
we're pushing the normal white male out of
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::[Robb]: everything.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: And that's, I think, going to be a huge
problem long haul. Because it's not realistic.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: He already is.
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::[Robb]: It's just not realistic. And
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: here's the other part, though. Like,
we've, being a man, look at how men are treated
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::[Robb]: in other cultures. So go down the line
of, let's say, white, Asian, Hispanic, black.
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::[Robb]: And if we want to go with, statistically
speaking, you know, white males are probably
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::[Robb]: in their children's lives 50% because
divorce rate.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: Hispanics stay and stay because they
don't get divorced very often. And they're
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::[Robb]: generally more family oriented.
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::[Robb]: Asians probably the same way. And blacks,
you look at statistically speaking, about 68%
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::[Robb]: of black households have no father in
them.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: So why, why are we pushing these men
away from their children? It's bad.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I don't know.
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::[Robb]: And we did that show on what happens
when there's not a father in the home. Well,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: let him be part of the damn kid's life.
You know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: I saw a video, I wanna say on Instagram,
where it was a black guy, and he was talking
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::[Robb]: about how it was when he was a kid,
and he was probably our age. And he goes, now
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::[Robb]: the older men, let's say 28 year old
men, don't say anything to these young kids
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::[Robb]: anymore in the streets. He goes, when
I was a kid, the men in the town would whoop
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::[Robb]: your ass and then take you back home
to your mom and mom would go, glad you whooped
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::[Robb]: his ass. Cause we had, we... put men
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: We did not
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::[Robb]: or
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have
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::[Robb]: fathers
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the culture
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::[Robb]: on that level.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: of victims though. We didn't
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::[Robb]: Correct.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: have a culture where everybody
was a victim. Like if you, if my mom heard
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that somebody, another
parent had to say something to me.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm. Pfft.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I was going to get it.
She wouldn't have wanted anybody to put her
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hands on me. She would
have saved that for herself. But if somebody
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: had to reprimand me and
she caught wind of it, my ass was in trouble,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like
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::[Robb]: Oh yeah,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: period.
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::[Robb]: me too.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And then, and then hope
to God she didn't say anything to dad, because
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: then I'd have to hear about
it all over again.
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::[Robb]: Yeah,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And by
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::[Robb]: or get
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that
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::[Robb]: another
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: time I'm
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::[Robb]: weapon.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, forget it. No, I
normally just got one. But
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::[Robb]: Oh,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I
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::[Robb]: okay.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: got
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::[Robb]: That's good.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: one. That's the point.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, oh no, me too.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: little bitch kids that
say that's abuse that's abuse no you need to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: get your ass whipped once
in a while
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: so it'll keep you honest
I'm sorry I just agree with that and if you
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't agree I don't care
like
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::[Robb]: Well,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I
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::[Robb]: and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: see what this world's coming
to where kids don't have any sort of consequences
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: for their actions that's
not fair that's not fair to them either
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::[Robb]: And I think boys more, because look,
you have all these single mothers of men. Who's
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::[Robb]: going to tell them no? Mom? Who's now,
you know, let's say five foot four, and their
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::[Robb]: child is six foot two and 300 pounds.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: How are you going to tell your kid he's
not going out tonight, because he wants to
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::[Robb]: go gallivanting through the city?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know, when I was growing
up, they brought them to my house because my
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: mom was wild and my dad
was just, you're not going to fuck up, right?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like, this is how it's
going to be. But we don't even have community
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: anymore as a society for
people to even get the help for all these single
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: mothers to have any sort
of support.
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::[Robb]: Right. But we had, back in the day,
like I'm saying, men, for one, men stayed with
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::[Robb]: their children, or they had a better
way of fixing that, where, you know, there
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::[Robb]: was still co-parenting. And it probably
died with our parents.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah, well,
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::[Robb]: Right?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it stopped when women started
taking away everybody's rights as men, too.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Instead of coming to a
happy medium, it became that this guy's the
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: perpetrator, let's take
everything we can from him. I think that's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when it started to change,
because before that men could be more around
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: their kids. And they weren't
so damn resentful trying to be around them
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: either. You know,
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::[Robb]: Yeah.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it wasn't so freaking frustrating
for them. Because
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::[Robb]: It's gotta
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it...
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::[Robb]: be crazy like how bad women would bury
the father. You know,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: pan.
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::[Robb]: see like I, and I can say it and the
people who know around me and you could even
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::[Robb]: ask my kid, I never said anything bad
about his mom because there's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I was
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::[Robb]: no
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: there,
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::[Robb]: reason to.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I know,
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::[Robb]: There
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: right?
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::[Robb]: was no reason to bury her, whether I
was mad at her or not and thankfully there
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::[Robb]: wasn't a lot of real resentment anyway
but
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Robb]: it wasn't gonna solve any problems.
You're just You're making someone the enemy.
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::[Robb]: And I think men, women who are bitter
for whatever reason, bury dad, so now dad is
583
::[Robb]: always gonna be the enemy. And you're
just making a resentful, lonely, pissed off
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::[Robb]: man in a house alone.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And you're making a bunch
of pissed off kids.
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::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Because they're wondering
why their dad doesn't love them. They're wondering
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: why nobody is there when
they need them. They're wondering why they
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: weren't good enough for
their parents to make it work. They've got
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: their own set of hangups.
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::[Robb]: What do you think is a way that we could
fix this situation? And again, I'm throwing
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::[Robb]: that out on a very long limb because
I think that there's tons that we can do.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I thought about that. And
me as a person, being the talker that I am
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and the one that will just
go up and hug anybody and the one that like
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: will strike up a conversation,
I need to... Maybe be more thoughtful in my
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: actions on a day to day
and if I see something I should say something
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: or just open up and say
hey, how's it going? If I catch somebody's
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: eye or and not to flirt
not to be you know doing anything, but just
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to like a be more willing
to be open I really do have good conversations
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: with my male friends. I
really ask them questions they don't want to
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: answer. I like having that
sort of relationship with them. So I think
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in that respect with my
friends, they know that they should and they
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: would absolutely be supported
if they needed anything, they should call me.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: They know that. I know
they know that, right? You know that, right?
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::[Robb]: Of course. Well, for
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Okay.
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::[Robb]: me? You're not really asking me that,
are
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: No,
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::[Robb]: you?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: no. saying
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::[Robb]: Okay.
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: like, I'm just saying I
hope I did a good job in the men in my life,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: especially that I make
special time for them because I was raised
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: with a bunch of men, really
good men that were really good to me. So I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: don't have that any sort
of hang ups about a man being a man or a woman
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: being a woman. I'm good
with that. So but I think is women. We are
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: the soft side and we're
supposed to be the soft side. That's what our
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: specialty is. We're the
warmth in the heart. So I think as society
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: we need to stop just telling
men they're shit and they're worthless and
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: we don't need them and
start really validating the point that we're
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: all in this together and
we all need to treat each other better. And
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: if we take the time to
have better relationships with one another,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: man and women especially,
then there won't be such a high divorce rate
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and there won't be such
a high suicidal rate. There also won't be as
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: high of abuse rate because
if we're meeting in the middle and we're working
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: as people and I think as
a whole that's what everybody's trying to do
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is just be happy and try
to, you know, get along. I think if we do that
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and we don't keep... making
victims out of ourselves, things could get
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: better. I'm not saying
that life will be perfect. I'm not saying that,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you know, roses and sunshine
are on the horizon. We just got to be nice
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: to the man next to us.
That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is we start with our own
actions. It's like that Michael Jackson song,
633
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Man in the Mirror, like
it starts with who we are and. We need to quit
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: freaking blaming one thing
over another. It's everybody's fault that everything
635
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: in this world is going
on. Period. Because we're all in it. We're
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: all influencing it.
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::[Robb]: Yeah, my big thing is to stop telling
people that masculinity is not good. We
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
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::[Robb]: need to stop that. Toxic
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I agree.
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::[Robb]: masculinity is what makes this planet
go. When you, there's a guy out there who people
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::[Robb]: hate, his name's Andrew Tate, but we
should listen to him on a lot of different
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::[Robb]: levels. He says that, Everyone hates
toxic masculinity until someone's trying to
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::[Robb]: hurt you and then who do you call? The
most toxic person with a gun that can come
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::[Robb]: and save you. But masculinity in general
is not bad. Stop trying to feminize men. We're
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::[Robb]: not. Femininity,
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and you're not supposed
to be.
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::[Robb]: we're not supposed to be. Femininity
and masculinity are the yin and yang as well.
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::[Robb]: We need masculine people to to run society
and we need feminine people to make sure, or
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::[Robb]: feminine women and masculine men, to
make sure that both those yin and yangs go
651
::[Robb]: together, that when you have children,
that you can have both a side of harshness
652
::[Robb]: and a side of love, and then they meet
in the middle. And in a regular relationship,
653
::[Robb]: you do need masculinity because... When
you're out and something arises, you want that
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::[Robb]: man to stand up and make sure that you
don't get hurt or this doesn't happen. There's
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::[Robb]: nothing wrong with that. We are now
making any kind of masculinity horrible. I
656
::[Robb]: mean, you have men in dresses on the
covers of magazines now where you look at it
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::[Robb]: and it's almost humorous in a sad way.
We need to be okay with men being men and women
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::[Robb]: being women. There's nothing wrong with
this. If we don't start doing this as a culture,
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::[Robb]: back in this country at least, and maybe
any Western society, we're going to push ourselves
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::[Robb]: away because everyone else is that way.
China, Africa, you know, the Middle East. With
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::[Robb]: even their downfalls of how they treat
women, don't get me wrong. I don't wanna say
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::[Robb]: that... the way some of the women are
treated in those countries isn't bad, but at
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::[Robb]: least they have their places in society.
And most societies run better when you use
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::[Robb]: that format. It's worked for three or
4,000 years. Why are we trying to change it
665
::[Robb]: now?
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And it's changing so rapidly.
That's what's kind of interesting to me. I
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::[Tina Marie Garcia]: remember when I was younger,
my parents would say, well, times were different
668
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when I was a kid. I get
that now, because it
669
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
670
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: really was different for
us. You know, being raised where we were, it's
671
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: not even the same world
that we're looking at.
672
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
673
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And I know my generation
specifically, I hear them saying all the time,
674
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: what the hell did we do
wrong? that is going so far the other way.
675
::[Robb]: Yeah.
676
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: But if you if you have
enough influences that are, you know, out there
677
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and pushing their agendas,
it doesn't take very it doesn't take very much,
678
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: you
679
::[Robb]: Mm-mm.
680
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, before somebody's
like really out there and make it just screaming
681
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it. And
682
::[Robb]: Yeah, it's
683
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: really,
684
::[Robb]: a.
685
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: should we be screaming
anybody's agenda? Really? Like
686
::[Robb]: Well, I mean, look, you should fight
for what you believe in. And I'm not, and I'm
687
::[Robb]: never gonna say that you shouldn't.
But there's also a point where you have to
688
::[Robb]: look on how society in general works
and how it's worked. It's just a norm of how
689
::[Robb]: we are as this animal, because that's
what we are, we're animals. If you went into
690
::[Robb]: any structured animal world and tried
to change how they are, they would not survive.
691
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
692
::[Robb]: And just because we're a bigger brained
standing up organism doesn't mean that we're
693
::[Robb]: smarter than the bears. We're not.
694
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's true.
695
::[Robb]: We need to stay in our lane. And mostly
if these people, like I'll give you the example
696
::[Robb]: of like climate deniers or saying, you
know, if we don't do this, we're the world's
697
::[Robb]: gonna end. And if we don't do this,
we're fine or whatever. If we don't continue
698
::[Robb]: to mate, there won't be anyone here
for the planet to survive. It'll just right
699
::[Robb]: down the toilet.
700
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah
701
::[Robb]: And that's reality. But we need to pick
men up, I think a little bit more these days.
702
::[Robb]: And as you can tell, someone who used
to be a woman, who's now a man for eight years,
703
::[Robb]: realizes that it's not the happy place
that everyone thinks it is to be a man in this
704
::[Robb]: society. And if we keep pushing and
keep pushing, we're going to not have women
705
::[Robb]: being protected by men anymore. And
it's going to be a much more harsher world
706
::[Robb]: to live in. We need strong men to make
sure that the world keeps going because strong
707
::[Robb]: men end up making softer men because
then they think they don't have to do anything.
708
::[Robb]: and then the world goes to shit and
who do they start looking for? Stronger men
709
::[Robb]: again, because it's the only one who's
710
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
711
::[Robb]: gonna rebound that society. So, Bill,
to me, go find young men, and I mean young
712
::[Robb]: men, like 20 and younger, and make sure
you tell them what it means to be a man in
713
::[Robb]: society, because the colleges and the
media is telling them to be weak. individuals
714
::[Robb]: who just stand by with a sign in their
hand instead of being the one throwing punches.
715
::[Robb]: And sometimes you have to throw punches
because if you don't,
716
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
717
::[Robb]: you will end up being weak. And like
there's a my friend down the street, I do my
718
::[Robb]: best. His father isn't in his life enough.
So I made it my thing to make sure that I check
719
::[Robb]: on him and make sure he's doing okay.
And that some man in his life gives a shit
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::[Robb]: about him, because he's
721
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm
722
::[Robb]: a good kid, and I don't want him to
go off the rails, thinking it's, you know,
723
::[Robb]: that men are, or fathers are men are
all like that, because they're not. People
724
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: That's
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::[Robb]: care
726
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: true.
727
::[Robb]: about you, and I make sure my kid knows
that, like, you have to be a strong man, because
728
::[Robb]: that's what women will want later on
in life. They're gonna want a strong man who's
729
::[Robb]: gonna take care of them that they feel
safe with. And I don't mean safe and just like,
730
::[Robb]: oh, thank goodness, everything's fine.
No, like I feel safe around this guy. Like
731
::[Robb]: he's gonna take care of me and my kids
and make sure nothing happens to us and we
732
::[Robb]: get home safe. To me,
733
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
734
::[Robb]: that's way more important in life. And
that's what I want in a mate. I want a mate
735
::[Robb]: who's okay with taking on sometimes
the feminine role of let me talk to them on
736
::[Robb]: this level instead of. Because men are
brash. We talk very, I mean, I hate to say
737
::[Robb]: it, just like very on top of people.
Sometimes it's good to give a woman the lead
738
::[Robb]: and say, go talk to them and see what's
wrong with them. We need that yin and yang,
739
::[Robb]: but we need to stop burying men under
this very false societal shit that you're not,
740
::[Robb]: you don't need to be a man anymore.
You need to be soft. You need to cry. You need
741
::[Robb]: to be open.
742
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well, and there is there
is a time and space for that in life there
743
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm,
744
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: is
745
::[Robb]: there is.
746
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: but we also need Them to
be the ones to suck it up sometime But I just
747
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: think as a as a society
right now we're asking men To not only go against
748
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: who they are with their
strength but to You know, we're going to make
749
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: fun of them for being strong
on top of it, but we're going to lean on them
750
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when we need it. But, you
know, like, what are we doing? Like, it just
751
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: doesn't seem fair.
752
::[Robb]: It's
753
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: And
754
::[Robb]: a yo-yo
755
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and.
756
::[Robb]: relationship.
757
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah. And and, you know,
the funny thing about it is when, you know,
758
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when we're when I'm with
my friends, maybe because we're older and we
759
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: see a guy and he's doing
something like really. Like. you
760
::[Robb]: Manly?
761
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know, carrying something,
yeah, manly, they're carrying something really
762
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: big, or they're,
763
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
764
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: they're getting dirty and
they're doing like their job or whatever. We
765
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: all kind of rubberneck
it and look at them go, damn, you know, that's
766
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: hot because it's genetically
it is.
767
::[Robb]: this.
768
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: It's supposed to be sexy.
It's supposed to be attractive. And I'm not
769
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: thinking, oh, I wish he
put that down and like start, you know. start
770
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: complaining about his life
with me. That's not what
771
::[Robb]: Yeah,
772
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I'm thinking.
773
::[Robb]: no.
774
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Like, wait, you just threw
that around. Can I get some of that attention?
775
::[Robb]: Yeah, or you
776
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You
777
::[Robb]: know
778
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know.
779
::[Robb]: when something needs to get done that
you can't do physically, he's gonna be the
780
::[Robb]: person there to make sure it gets done,
regardless
781
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
782
::[Robb]: of what that is. It's taking the tree
out of the ground, it's, you know, getting
783
::[Robb]: in,
784
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: replacing
785
::[Robb]: if,
786
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: a tire on the freeway.
787
::[Robb]: yeah, if
788
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Yeah.
789
::[Robb]: someone's in your face, he's gonna make
sure he's in between you and making sure that
790
::[Robb]: stops. It's okay to... be a man in society
today. And I wish more people will push that
791
::[Robb]: instead of the weakening of this modern
man.
792
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well... I don't know how
much influence I have, but I really do try
793
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: all the time to tell people
no that's wrong like don't you like that men
794
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: are sexy like that? Don't
you turned on by the fact that he wants to
795
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: growl at you before you
guys have sex like it's okay to be wanted like
796
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: that
797
::[Robb]: Sure.
798
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: isn't it? It is. So why
would you why would you cut him down for all
799
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: these things? I'm just
hearing a lot of shit lately about men
800
::[Robb]: Mm-hmm.
801
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and I'm like well wait
it doesn't make sense why are you mad at that?
802
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Why are you mad at that?
803
::[Robb]: And most of those burly, manly men,
they want feminine women.
804
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Well,
805
::[Robb]: That's just reality.
806
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I notice that in my life,
the ones that are kind of the biggest dicks
807
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: are normally close or friends
to me.
808
::[Robb]: Right.
809
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: The guys that are like,
I'm super mad, you know, I do this, they're,
810
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: first of all, they entertain
me because I think they're funny that they're
811
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: so, you know, themselves.
But also I think they like it too because I
812
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: never put them down. I'm
like, that's right, grout, grr, you know, give
813
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: it to them. Like... I encourage
bad behavior or what people think is bad behavior
814
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: just because it's more
entertaining for me. But I also think that
815
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: when guys are acting like
that, it is sexy.
816
::[Robb]: Yeah,
817
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: I am okay with that.
818
::[Robb]: it's worked for thousands of years,
Tina.
819
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You know,
820
::[Robb]: Thousands
821
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: my genetics
822
::[Robb]: of years.
823
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: are saying that you are
right, Rob.
824
::[Robb]: And just remember, and just remember,
like at some point, there was a guy with a
825
::[Robb]: club who hit some woman over the head
and dragged her
826
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: You
827
::[Robb]: by
828
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: know,
829
::[Robb]: the hair back
830
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: and
831
::[Robb]: to a cave.
832
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: sometimes I would even
say that sexy so.
833
::[Robb]: Yeah, look, it's fact, it's built into
us.
834
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Mm-hmm.
835
::[Robb]: We're going to we're going to leave
it on that. Make sure you check our social
836
::[Robb]: medias, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
and make sure you go to all the podcasting
837
::[Robb]: places. You can listen to this share,
like.
838
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Follow.
839
::[Robb]: Follow for free. It's all free. It's
great. We don't cost a thing. And yeah, this
840
::[Robb]: is an opinion show, so don't get it
twisted. If you'd like to come on and talk
841
::[Robb]: with us, we're more than happy to have
people on. And yeah, until next week. Anything
842
::[Robb]: else there, Miss Tina?
843
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Have a good Father's Day,
Rob.
844
::[Robb]: I'll do my best. We'll talk to you later.
845
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: Alright, bye
846
::[Robb]: Bye.
847
::[Tina Marie Garcia]: bye.
