EP # 186 Life Lessons Through the Decades

Robb (: 00:01

And welcome to another show. get this twisted. I am Rob along with my co-host as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

Tina (: 00:07

I'm doing alright. Happy Easter!

Robb (: 00:09

Yes, we are recording this on the Easter Sunday. No, I mean, I'm sure there's, know, Jesus and bunnies. Yeah, yeah, we're going to leave that alone so we don't are not blasphemous on the day of Jesus's rising. Anyway, yeah, you're doing stuff and I'm sitting at home because all my family's out of town.

Tina (: 00:12

Yes, don't tell anyone.

That could go many different ways actually.

Tina (: 00:30

No. Will not be.

Robb (: 00:39

out of state. So.

Tina (: 00:40

Yeah, well, we're, the family, I guess, my generation, there's part of the family that doesn't want to hang with the other side of the family. So, it's been kind of, kind of like frustrating because, you know, there's this tear down the middle and, and nothing even happened. There wasn't a big fight. There wasn't a, a fuck you match. There was none of that. But you know, in, my world,

people get butt hurt and you don't even know and then you won't know for several years and the next thing you know the family can't get together on the holidays which is kind of how it was so anyway we're going out to my aunt's house because my uncle didn't he's not having anybody but his girls with him today so whatever I'm over it and I didn't even fight about it I don't care I'm just gonna go to my aunt's and have fun with everybody else

Robb (: 01:11

You're going.

Robb (: 01:39

And you're going near my old stomping grounds where I used to live. Easy breezy. Gotta love them. Alrighty, so like always, we generally either have something to talk about or don't. And thankfully you do. So I'll let you throw it out.

Tina (: 01:39

So.

Yeah, yeah, so it'll be fun. I think it'll be kind of a kind of an easy breezy day and everybody that's going gets along. It'll be fantastic. Easy breezy, yeah.

Tina (: 02:04

Yeah, after our last recording, I had this kind of epiphany.

When I was married, I was married to somebody who was 12 years older than I am. And so he would say, now remember in your 40s, this, this, that, and this happens. And, you know, in your 50s, this and this and that, and this happened. So he was, he almost kind of warned me because he was 12 years older of what was going to come next. And, true to form, he was always right, which is frustrating, you know, in an ex, but, but he was, he was always right. And so I thought we would talk about like the different

Robb (: 02:14

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 02:40

huge major stepping stones that come with each decade of life and You know, I was thinking about your first through ten That's when everything about you is turning into who you're become as an adult That's where all of your connections start. That's where all of your all right your passions, you know start and where wherever you're

whatever you're brought into, you could make a whole lifestyle with like, you know, putting a kid in little league and then next thing you know, he's, he's, uh, playing on the Dodger field or you know what I mean? It's like everything that you do starts when you're so young, you don't even realize it's starting. So that I noticed was like my first through 10 and then my 10 from 20s was more of like

Robb (: 03:16

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 03:30

becoming a human and becoming like more of an adult and sex and You know finding yourself and building your confidence and and you know learning what friendship is and and I mean, there's so many things that come from 10 to 20 So I was thinking about yeah, think about all that then 20 to 30 that was when I kind of found myself I went through

Robb (: 03:38

tons

Tina (: 03:58

a lot of bad relationships. I went through a lot of, you know, friends, so-called friends, you know, it's funny how so many people that, that I knew that I thought were my closest people are not even around now. But during that time, that's what you're doing. You're learning to build those relationships and, and find that confidence, find out what you want to be when you grow up. That that was important. I remember

Robb (: 04:14

Mm-hmm.

Right, for sure.

Tina (: 04:26

they from fourteen fifteen sixteen every visit we would be really good and i don't even know what i want to be tomorrow they had it you know so i remember that struggle of going through all that and uh...

You know that that was after my first love and I broke up and I had to learn how to move on and forward through heartbreak, which I think is hard for most people, you know, on their first and, you know, getting my first real job, I got it. I got a real job. I worked at bank of America. If that's not a real job, I don't know what is, I was a vault teller and then I was a customer service manager. So

Robb (: 05:05

Right.

Tina (: 05:12

It was funny because I really didn't take life seriously in my 20s at all. I was going out and dancing every weekend. was driving back and forth to El Paso. I was hanging out with friends. I was getting friends in trouble with me. Not I did not get them in trouble. They did everything in there on their own free will. But I encouraged any and all madness that I could get into. And so that was like the 20s. That was me.

Robb (: 05:36

You

Tina (: 05:41

fighting myself, that was me going through beauty school. That was me getting my beauty license. was me going on cruises and traveling and networking. My 20s was, for me, that was a really good time.

Robb (: 05:46

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 06:02

Yeah, I went through women or my friends that were messing around and not using protection and getting abortions. And I mean, we were learning about real life stuff that was we were coming from a stupid place because we weren't evolved enough to not make certain mistakes, but we all did. And that was when I remember being in a lot of weddings.

In your 20s, it seems like everybody's getting married and everybody wants you in the wedding and everybody's needing to, you know, to get you to do these things. And I didn't like going and being in weddings. I got to be honest with you. I was in so many weddings. I can't tell you, but I didn't really like any of them. I didn't like the way the brides acted. You know, brides in their 20s are like bridezillas.

Robb (: 06:53

Right. Right. Yeah, for sure.

Tina (: 06:53

It's gotta be perfect. Nothing in life is perfect. Can we get that out of your head now like That's when I learned nothing is perfect what's going to weddings and being in them You know and all that it's about me it's about me it's about me and I'm like I don't see you paying my bills It's not about you, but I remember those times going through all of that and and I could make a whole I could make a whole podcast on going through stuff like that

during those years and then when I was 29, I met my ex and we moved in together and you know, then we started in with being a foster parent to our then foster child and and I was thrown into being a mom and I didn't even have nine months to prepare for that one. It was all just like boom. Here it is. This is when it starts, you know, so

Robb (: 07:47

you

Tina (: 07:53

Learning how to be a mom learning how to go through the motions learning how to not do for yourself because a little human needs you to be something else or You know I don't I don't remember ever having food that I didn't have to share with one of the kids that was around or Gosh, there's so many things learning how to to live with somebody

Robb (: 08:05

You

Tina (: 08:19

my gosh every other week. I wanted to kill the man that I was with I don't know how we got through that and and You know, I spent a lot of time in the back of bedroom Just trying to escape having to deal with him or what he was gonna say and he wasn't even an asshole Let's just face it. It was probably more me than anything, but he has admitted that he didn't know how to push the buttons as well, but trying to live with somebody in and still be yourself and

not lose sight of what you have to do and who you want to be and what your ambitions are and helping families that's when when um, I was taking care of my grandparents before they passed in my 30s and My grandmother died when I was 30 That was the first one to go. I remember the sense of loss that you feel and how When you're a kid you feel it on one level, but as an adult you feel it on a completely different level and you see

Robb (: 09:10

you

Tina (: 09:18

I you know you're starting to understand consequences for stupid behavior or for for not taking time to spend with people I remember my 30s that was very that was the lesson that I got was if you don't if you don't take the time you won't have the time so I don't know you could jump in what did you learn in your 30s let's go there or your 20s I didn't even let you talk about that

Robb (: 09:42

I mean, really, I think the base of of my thing was probably between 10 and 20. Because that's where like most of my friendships started, like my real ones that are going on today. You know, like my best friend, he's down in San Diego. I've known him since I was 13 years old. I've known him

Tina (: 09:54

Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 10:00

Right?

Tina (: 10:07

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 10:09

You know 40 years So yeah, so I think for me, you know, that's a big one But obviously not the biggest between 20 and 30. I was just a reckless Dumb shit that thought wrestling was the only thing in my life So I and I literally just made it that So, you know, I mean I was doing a lot of that until I was 20

Tina (: 10:11

crazy.

Tina (: 10:28

He

Robb (: 10:38

I mean, I did it until I was 44. So to be fair, did it for 20 years, but really around 28. So between 20 and 30, I met my ex-wife. So that's when my life kind of started going in a different direction. And then 30 to 40, I had my son and then everything changed. By 40, I was already divorced. Matter of fact, I had my 40th birthday in Vegas when I moved.

Tina (: 10:58

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 11:07

I sat on a couch by myself at 40 years old in a new state going, man, did I make the right decision or not? So it was rough. I will tell you the truth. was an interesting time just to kind of set back. But I think 20s and 30s was just, between 20 and 30 was just being a dumb ass. You know what I mean?

Tina (: 11:07

Wow.

Tina (: 11:16

that would have been hard.

Tina (: 11:27

I'm a bear.

Robb (: 11:35

A lot of good times. mean, me and my old tag team partner and another couple of wrestlers named Lester and Joey. Lester's not with us anymore. And my old tag team partner, Byron, is not with us anymore. like we traveled all over California and beat the living shit out of each other. In the best way possible. I mean, like not trying to kill each other, but just so we drove there together.

Tina (: 11:55

Mm-hmm.

He

Robb (: 12:05

had a match with each other and then would go out afterwards. We would drive from San Bernardino where the shows were all the way back to Cheechies and Northridge because at that point it was open until one in the morning. So we would come drive all the way back order a bunch of food at like midnight and then go back to my apartment and watch the show we just did. Good times. I mean you know and then you know I would probably have to work the next day.

Tina (: 12:09

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 12:16

Yeah.

Tina (: 12:26

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 12:33

Because those shows were on like Saturday, so and then I used to Sundays. So I would get up on Sunday morning and go to work the next day. It was great to be young because you could do that shit and it wouldn't kill you. And then, but I think between 30 and 40, I learned to grow up a little bit. You know, you have a kid and it changes you, whether they're a foster kid or they're yours. It's the same.

Tina (: 12:42

Yeah.

Tina (: 12:46

Right?

Robb (: 13:03

you have to change as a human because you are taking care of another human being. And then by the and by the time I was 36, 37, no, by the time I was 30, 38, I was getting a divorce and I took my son with me and I've never not had him. So I've been a single dad for, you know, 16 years. So for me, it's like

Tina (: 13:10

is true.

Robb (: 13:32

I learned a lot after my divorce, think, just to prioritize what it is that you want to do in life. I think that I've missed out on things for sure. You know, you date less, you, you know, because you have to make sure that things are done. So it's just different. I just think you look at things differently.

Tina (: 13:43

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 13:52

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 14:00

And then the last 10 have been just a whole other menagerie of fuck off. You know, I mean, you find yourself in very odd positions, I think even in your 40s, you know, going into your 50s, you you never grow up, you're always putting yourself in these odd, weird, you know, situations.

Tina (: 14:26

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 14:27

Because we're still like I was talking with someone the other night and about age and I was like, oh yeah, I'm 53, you know, physically, but I'm 16 in my head. You know, I still think dick jokes are funny. You know, I still I still watch superhero movies and animation and I'm still a geek. So like, yeah, there's there's things that aren't you're never going to outgrow.

Tina (: 14:44

Okay.

Robb (: 14:56

And I think that's sort of the problem when you start looking the differences between men and women. think women as they get older, they mature and they don't think that that kind of stuff. And I'm generalizing bell curve as always on our show. Right. But I mean, again, we're gonna use the bell curve because there's always the outliers that are like me and you and you'll run into people like.

Tina (: 15:13

I was gonna say, because that doesn't apply to me because the dirtier the joke the better.

You

Robb (: 15:26

Like when I go visit my friend in San Diego, we generally don't talk serious shit ever we talk about wrestling and comic books and and you know movies and because that's What our our friendship was always based on so we just keep it going every blue moon something will come up like if I Am going through something with a girl or if he's going through something with his wife. He might

Tina (: 15:32

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 15:40

Which you always did.

Robb (: 15:53

spill the beans a little and then I'll say, oh, this is what's going on with me. But we generally don't deep dive into that because that's not what keeps our friendship going. So I think a lot of things are as much as they differ in 10 year periods, they stay the same. Which is great.

Tina (: 16:04

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 16:13

Yeah. When I was in my thirties, that's when I had got, that's when I got my daughter and I was scared every day. I remember that because I thought they were going to take her back. I thought that she wouldn't be safe. I thought that she would go back to not being protected. I, I remember like always having to go to court or going to counseling or going to wherever we had to go for all this stuff.

Robb (: 16:25

Right.

Tina (: 16:43

I just remember the fear of losing her or not being good enough for her or not Doing things right enough for or not Giving her everything that she needed to to be the best she could be I remember my 30s were all about worry because of that taking care of my kid That was a that was a horrible place to be and that was also the years when I was going through fertility treatments and they were just mucking up my

Robb (: 17:03

Right.

Tina (: 17:14

my hormones to the point where I wasn't even the same person. couldn't even, I was so frustrated all the time. I couldn't even deal with a lot of things. my thirties were really freaking hard trying to get along with my ex when we were living together, trying to take care of the family, trying to, you know, the extended family, trying to still be me. was, was a, that was probably my hardest time in life and it ended.

In the year I turned 40 and that was the year that I miscarried and my daughter ran away and my house was robbed and my mom passed away and I found her and God, there was just so many things I could go on and on. I had to have my hysterectomy. So that, that was, my 40th year was the year of complete and utter loss. I lost everything that had to do with being a mom, having a mom, having a child.

Robb (: 17:56

you

Tina (: 18:14

being a mom, all that. that was like, but that was kind of like a break for me. So when all that was gone and I was stripped down to like, don't, life as you know it is over. So now you have to build up a new life and who are you gonna be in your new life? Because daughter wasn't coming back, mom definitely wasn't coming back. My security, I had to find that again.

Robb (: 18:16

Right.

Tina (: 18:43

and make that happen. So, so my 40s were like, really finding good people and putting better friends in places that needed that I needed them, keeping the ones that kind of maybe stayed back a little because I had already had a group of people that I was hanging out with all the time and they didn't really like them. So it's like that was my year of

Lost but also a reboot on life like to be not who I was as a kid But who I am as an adult and and being judged fairly in those areas As opposed to when I was younger. I didn't feel like any of us were judged very fairly But on the other hand we all kind of were assholes. So there was that too, you know But 40 was like the reinvention so I spent my 40s

Robb (: 19:32

Right?

Tina (: 19:40

Really getting to know me. Yeah, it's just kind of Figuring things out and learning how to enjoy life and not pushing the envelope to to get that adrenaline Feeling, you know, I was like everything slowed down a little and you don't need to have that adrenaline rush every time you do something so learning how to be like Okay, and you're in my own skin

Robb (: 19:46

you

Robb (: 20:06

Right.

Tina (: 20:07

That was more of the the forties was getting there. I also feel like that was that was probably when I was.

most happy with myself and, and I got to learn how to, to live for myself again. Cause you know, when you're twenties and you're thirties, you don't do that. so those were that 40 was, was a blessing in disguise, even though it was a, it was a bitch slap. mean, a constant bitch slap that year of 40 and then

were rebuilding from that and I think even 50s are about rebuilding from that but my 50s I feel like I just don't give a crap anymore like I'll do whatever I want to whenever I want to and if you want to judge me go sit over there and watch but get out of my way because I'm still gonna do it and I feel a sense of like owning my my own shit owning my own who I am where I am and how I'm doing it

Robb (: 21:12

Yeah, I think my 40s were more trying to find out where I wanted to go. know, I, couple years in Vegas kind of set me in a different direction. not in a bad way, but then, you know, when the market fell out in 2009, I had to come home, right? Cause for one, there was no

work. Vegas just died. So I was lucky enough that I had a friend who needed roommates. So and I lived with her for almost nine years. It's good run. I had it easy. She was way younger than me. She's like my little sister, like literally. And it was it was interesting. I learned a lot, too, about like having to learn how to live with somebody again and

Tina (: 21:51

Wow. Yeah.

Robb (: 22:07

And you know, and that's you're not a romantic partner. There there's someone who's your you you have to you have house rules and all these different things again. And it was a learning experience because two years on my own again, because I've lived on my own a bunch of times. You know, before I got married, I was on my own for years. So, know, at least 11, 12. So, you know, and then I got another two and it was great. I was like, man, by myself, I can.

Tina (: 22:23

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 22:37

sit around and do fuck off all I want. So then when I moved where I moved now to have an apartment again, it was nice to have that relaxing kind of like where you're at. And I'm scared now again, if I meet somebody and decide to make that big move again, like moving in with somebody and learning them and you know, there's a lot to that. So

Tina (: 23:05

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 23:06

There's going to be a lot to learn in my 50s. I learned a lot in my 40s. I learned that that you know what I want. I want a mate again. Like I've gone a long time without one. So like for me, I know it's something I want to be around. Do I want to get married? I think it would be something I wanted, but I don't think it's it's not necessary. But there's there's going to be more to learn in my 50s. I mean, look.

I mean, I'll be 54 this year, so I'm almost halfway through those. And I've learned a lot about people in those, know, at least mostly the last four years I've learned a lot about people. But yeah, you have to, it's a never ending cycle of learning. We're probably gonna learn on our deathbed something. So.

Tina (: 23:55

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 24:00

I hope it's something good.

Robb (: 24:01

I severely doubt that.

Tina (: 24:03

And so for my 50s we well we started out in 2020 with Covid that was a fucked up start to our 50s because I was you know just at 2021 that's when I turned 50 so the the end of my 40s taught me how to live in fear you know because there was a lot of fear behind that then that's why I quit watching tv

olitical bullshit was because: 2020

50 and a half and I made sure that I had my my 50th birthday party because I thought that was important to me So we had a we had a party and everybody kind of stayed spread out that was that was unusual for my group of people so I learned how to deal being stripped down of of all security and safety again and and now i'm like that all that taught me was

No, fuck this. You need to live and you need to live hard and you need to live fast and right now. So I went back to not, not, not doing something like it. I became the yes person. You want to go and do that? Yes, I can make it. You want to go do it? Yes, I could do this to the point where my life is so busy now that, that I don't have time to think sometimes. So

Robb (: 25:47

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 25:57

You know, but I learned how to be alone and I learned how to be scared. But now I want to learn how to have fun and to be with the people that truly means something to me because I'm finding that I do things. I'm not one to say, you know, I love you and let me hug and kiss on you. That's that's never been me. I'm not the the person that does that. But like I. I got these little miniature baby Jesus's, they're not babies.

They're just little tiny Jesus's and across the sash it says Jesus loves you well I thought it would be cool to like start putting them all over my friends houses and leave them in like in the door jam, you know like above the the door just leave one little tiny thing and see how long it took them to notice it but I did that not because I'm religious and and I have like a Jesus thing. It's not like that, but I wanted my friends to know

That I was there and that I loved them and then as long as they didn't take that off the door jam They would see that every time they looked up as they walked through the door and it was just my way of like letting them know I was there and that I loved them and I bought 75 of those stinking things. I put them everywhere Everybody had them in their trailers. Everybody had them in their door jams So they're are on a picture frame anywhere. I could sneak a little tiny Jesus. I did that only one person

Was like, that out of here. That's I don't know why anybody would do that. Like, well, and and that's somebody that I'm not really fond of anyway, but you know her husband I was that's why I put it up. everybody else thought it was funny and they're like stupid Tina. Why would you do this? And I'm like, why not? You know, you know, it's from me. So just laugh and be, you know, enjoy it. No, no, that's something's looking over you. But I'm also the one that says stupid shit like,

Robb (: 27:29

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 27:47

Right.

Tina (: 27:52

bless your heart or all the things that my family used to say that I'm like, where in the hell did they get this? Now I'm like, I've joined the cult of it all. you know, or I tell my friend Billy, my friend that, you know, what would Jesus do? And he'd always say, what would Jesus do? And we just laugh. It was, it became something that was, that was fun. So the baby Jesus's were something I did. And then I made sure.

Because I want to make sure that if I die my friends know, like, the people that put up with my shit daily know that I love them. So I got each of them a little sun catcher that, it's like a little moon and with the women sitting with their backs, like they're, you know, they're looking out. every one of my friends got one of those with, look like them and look like me. So we're sitting together having a drink.

but I'm finding in my 50s like we're losing people and We're losing them young and we need them to know we need them to know we you know feelings need to to be stated and and People that mean something to us. I'm finding that I need to say that more to them Even my my dad's my dad's best friend we grew up with with

this other family, the mom, the dad and the two kids and the two kids were, were my brother and I his age. So we went all through school and did things together always. And he has dementia and he actually used to listen to the podcast all the time. I don't know if his son still does, but he did. And he was the one that said that you cuss too much. And I was like, yeah, I get that, you know, but anyway, he, he came down with Alzheimer's and watching,

Robb (: 29:38

Hmm

Tina (: 29:47

Watching his disease kind of take over has been like frustrating and it and it makes me so sad because This man never did anything bad to anybody like he was just the nicest guy ever and You know to watch him watch him not know things or to be seeing things that aren't there and stuff and and You know making sure that he knew like he he

Robb (: 29:52

you

Tina (: 30:16

was coherent enough to say to me, he goes, I'm sorry, I didn't talk to you enough or communicate enough. I think it's the disease. And I told him, I didn't notice. Like you've always been like that where you just like check out. We didn't know. made a joke about it. But, but he said, just so you know, I really, really, really love you. And I said, I really, really love you too. And you have nothing to be sorry for. You know, and I'm here for you. And, and that moment taught me that

Robb (: 30:26

Hahaha

Tina (: 30:44

It is time to be closer. It is time to to reach out. It is okay to be vulnerable with your people. And if it isn't, you're just with the wrong people. So that's what my 50s is kind of teaching me now.

Robb (: 30:58

I agree. I think that there's something to, if you have relationships that are built with people, you have to do your best to keep them going. Regardless. we're at an age now where, like you said, tomorrow could be your last day. So I would rather make sure that the people in my life,

Tina (: 31:16

Yep.

Tina (: 31:22

Yeah.

Robb (: 31:28

are close. It's, it is very much needed. Because time is this weird thing. And even though things are either good or bad right now with people, you still need to keep them in your heart. And because look, weird shit happens in five years. You know, who knows where we're all going to be in five years and

Tina (: 31:34

It is.

Robb (: 31:57

Who you're gonna be around where your kids are gonna be there's so many different things I like it like this podcast because I just looked this up. Do you do you know when we started this? We the first episode came out September 16th of 2021 Yeah, yeah, so I mean four years this year obviously

Tina (: 32:07

Probably three years ago.

Tina (: 32:16

four years ago.

Holy crap.

Robb (: 32:24

It'll be in September, it will be four years. But it's gone by so quickly. I look at since I do the uploading, editing and all that fun stuff. You know, we have over 180 episodes and you know, to think of it like that is for me is very like, shit, like, yeah.

Tina (: 32:30

Yeah.

Robb (: 32:52

You know, we're going to sneak up on 200 episodes soon where we thought, where we thought sitting at a Denny's, I hope we get to 11. Yeah. What, once we hit 50, the big thing for me was a hundred. If we could just make it to a hundred. So I look at all these things.

Tina (: 32:57

Yeah.

Tina (: 33:02

Yep. And then I remember it was a big deal when we got to 30. Then it was a big deal when we got to 50. And then after that, I was like, we're good.

Tina (: 33:17

Yeah.

Robb (: 33:22

as building blocks of where, you know, what we've done. My 20s were wrestling. I was a wrestler and that's what I did. Like that was a bulk of that. The second 10 years at 30 to 40 was me being a dad, like a serious dad. And I put pretty much everything else on hold all my personal life. I've rarely dated.

Tina (: 33:47

Mm-hmm. Me too.

Robb (: 33:50

I've rarely dated in the last since I got divorced even in the last 16 years. I've really it's been about my son and making sure and that things are okay. But on the flip side of that, I'm I'm very much like, like about a lot of things where like life people are just like, aren't you worried about money? No, it's just money. Like

Life will go on if you know or jobs like if I lost my job tomorrow, I'll find another one I I don't I do my best not to panic over shit like that. It's like That's probably why I still have some hair and most of my hair is still not gray Even though it's getting there. It's I just try not to panic anymore I try not to there's so many more things that are that can make you happy money is not one of them everyone I know who's

Tina (: 34:25

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 34:35

you

Robb (: 34:47

It's a good start, don't get me wrong. But it doesn't make you happy. People who are chasing that life are going to be miserable because they'll never be happy because they only see it as that thing. Like, I hope I have this or I hope I end up with somebody who is going to do this for me. I want someone who's going to love me and and I want family that's going to love me and that kind of thing. That's the only shit that'll keep you actually happy in this world.

Tina (: 34:56

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 35:15

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 35:15

The rest of that shit is all nonsense. I see a lot of homeless people that look really fucking happy because they're just hanging out. Or they're high, but mean, you know, more power to you.

Tina (: 35:22

Or they're high. Or they're high. You know what else that my ex was very smart to tell me? He said you better move in your 40s. Because if you're not moving in your 40s, things are going to stiffen up in your 50s.

You're definitely not going to be able to use them and you're gonna lose your your strength in your 50s If you don't stay active if you're not, you know using your body You will be stiff and and he did say that he goes that's still very true in your 60s like you need to move you need to be You need to be active

Robb (: 36:06

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 36:08

You need to not be sitting in your chair every day watching TV and not moving or sitting there until you have to pee so bad that you have to jump up to get your exercise to run to the bathroom. Like I've noticed that that's been he was absolutely right on that. I'm glad that I've stayed moving. I'm glad that I eat better than I used to. So that's that was a good thing. You know, I was lucky that he gave me

Robb (: 36:17

Right.

Tina (: 36:37

Kind of like a cheat sheet to what was going to happen next because and he still will now that he's in his 60s He's like, you know You're losing people more you realize that life is

Most of its behind you you have to live for the now, you know So I I've heard him say so many things on that that it resonates and I'm looking for them But the the taking care of yourself in your 50s your health that that seems to be his big you need to take care of your health in your 50s things will happen and life will get Life will get kind of wild but you need to make sure that you are

taking your vitamins and taking your medicine and going for those walks and doing what you need to do to keep your health going because you start to see the decline in your physical body. So.

Robb (: 37:21

Mm-hmm

Robb (: 37:33

Without a doubt, I was listening to I want to say Tom Sagara's podcast, but I'm not positive. He was talking about like just what you said, even the most minute lifting of weights doesn't have to be heavy. This has to be that you're doing it.

Tina (: 37:48

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 37:52

Because we're breaking down like I have a torn bicep and a torn rotator in my shoulder on my right arm that I'm going to get fixed. I'll tell you right now I'm panicked over it, but I want to do it while the healing is OK. But I think I'll heal better right now than I will in 10 years. So, but coming out of that I have to start thinking OK, how am I going to get up and exercise still? Because I go to the gym at least.

Tina (: 38:08

Yeah.

Robb (: 38:21

four to five days a week. So I'm gonna have to be able to get up and still go and get on the treadmill and still walk. And I'm averaging about 10 to 12,000 steps a day. So, and you're right, it changes who you are. And I think for men, you have to start, at least from my standpoint, start looking at like, make sure you're getting tested for testosterone levels. It's super duper important.

Tina (: 38:23

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 38:32

Nice.

Robb (: 38:50

It's super important if your testosterone is low get it replaced That's probably true along with exercise I I had a low testosterone

Tina (: 38:54

I was seeing on social media the other day that if you want to naturally raise your testosterone stick your your balls in freezing cold water like ice water and that will make your body jump in testosterone naturally

Tina (: 39:16

Yeah.

Robb (: 39:20

lower than it. mean, funny thing still within the regions for my age. But when I started this this whole trip down exercise lane, it doubled. So, yeah, just exercising. Mm hmm. Yeah. And the bigger thing, too, is like for a man, the last set you do lift as heavy as you can. Because what happens is your body

Tina (: 39:33

Really? So exercising boosts your testosterone.

Robb (: 39:48

goes into overdrive, it goes, oh man, I can't really lift this, I better start producing testosterone to help that the next time it needs to be done. yeah, it's, but again, it's an important thing because I have friends who I was just talking to somebody yesterday about it and their level was low and I'm talking like my level was like 280. Now it's like 400 and something almost five.

Tina (: 40:17

But couldn't get up to like 1200 if you're in your 20s. Yeah.

Robb (: 40:18

His was... Yeah, naturally you can, but in your 20s. He was at like 150. Like he couldn't get out of bed. He was tired all the time. So yeah, it's important. And that I'm starting to look at that in my 50s. Like where do I, where do I want to be at 60? Cause I know I've punished my body. So losing 50 pounds, keeping it off, exercising way more has changed who I am.

Tina (: 40:26

Wow.

Robb (: 40:47

for sure. I mean, I feel better. have way more energy. And that's what I want to do. you know, look, we all want to travel. I think that that's kind of the thing that is what we do in our later years. But like you said, midlife is really 35. Like, we're not in our midlife. I mean, if you're lucky, if you're 40 and you live to be 80.

Tina (: 41:09

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 41:17

So you gotta live for the now and that's what I've kind of decided. I'm just gonna kind of do whatever I want to and go along the highway and see what happens. The next 10 years are gonna be an interesting thing. Where do I end up? Do I stay in the state? Do I boogie? Do I find somewhere to go for someone?

Tina (: 41:29

That's what you gotta do.

Robb (: 41:44

Do I find someone and then go somewhere else? I think there's a lot to be said to that. You know, we've talked about it a lot. think the epidemic of alone is really rough. So I think that your fifties and sixties is where that's all starts. Kind of the basis of, you know, where you end up. Friends. Friends are big. I think that we should

Tina (: 41:49

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 42:05

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 42:13

Just make sure you're keeping in contact with the people that are close to you. You know, on any level. No. Yeah.

Tina (: 42:18

Yeah. And you know, what's nice is that now I really know who my friends are and aren't and my friends and I, have a really good time together. Like who would have thought Rob, we'd be doing this for four years. I didn't, we were sitting in Denny's going, fuck my life. I hate COVID. I, I don't like feeling like this. What are we going to do? And now we've been doing this for four years, pretty much steady with, with like a speed wobble as of late.

Robb (: 42:40

Yeah, but that's not even who I think we've missed total we've missed like four or five weeks ever in four years and and that's not even in a row that's like a week here and keep going and a week here so Now we haven't taken a break

Tina (: 42:56

in four years.

Tina (: 43:04

And we didn't even take vacation like off season or anything.

Robb (: 43:10

Even the times that you went on vacation, we had several shows in the can so they could come out. look. very nice. Yeah, well, we'll knock them out. And look, I just think that life, you know, in 10 years, lunches, you're kind of right. Look back on them. What have you done in these blocks of 10 years and

Tina (: 43:16

Yeah. We're going to have to have another one for a couple weeks from now. I'm going to go to Big Bear for the weekend. Yeah.

Tina (: 43:35

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 43:38

think what you can do in the next 10. You know, there's there's a lot of life still left to be lived. But I think that you have to have some kind of roadmap. Right. Like, where do I want to be? I've I think the friendship thing is the biggest thing for me. I've kind of lost touch with some people in my life and it's time to kind of

Tina (: 43:54

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 44:07

knock on their door again and be like hey you know I just want you to know that just a recheck yeah and most of them are all out of state but I think that I've I've kind of lost myself in certain things over the last couple of years and it's time to make sure that everybody knows that they're important to me

Tina (: 44:12

Recheck.

Tina (: 44:30

That for me is a really big thing right now. And you know, what's funny is I don't think I the way I see it is I'll probably be one of the last to go, you know, it's not like I'm gonna be the first one tapping out on this earth. I just don't see that there's There's still purpose for me to be here but I do notice a lot of people are starting to go and a lot of people are getting really sick and and at any point could go and so I just feel like I need to

I need to be close. need to let them know I need to be more affectionate because I'm not that affectionate with them. And I noticed that my friends follow my cues. So if I'm if I'm being better, they're going to be better. You know, it's it's just that's how it works. It's a trickle down effect. So I've noticed that further than.

Robb (: 45:20

Right.

Tina (: 45:27

than I ever thought before that the importance of being there for your people, your community, they're what give you strength. Like I'm thinking, dad's getting ready to have a surgery. He may not be around for the next 10 years. So who would I fall back on if not my father? Or how are me and my brother gonna do this? And not that we can't, it's just.

Robb (: 45:37

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 45:54

You start to wonder, you know, I still think of myself in my twenties and not having anything figured out. So I'm already thinking, what do I need to do for the next 10 years? And who's going to be there for me? And we don't have those answers. So we just have to, we just have to figure out like how we're going to be the best we could be right now. And who do we want next to us as we're doing that right now? So.

Robb (: 46:03

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 46:20

Right. Yeah, my thing is the only thing that I'm kind of like you is I'm you look at the people around us like my son. I just want to make sure that he has some kind of idea.

It's already rough. He's gonna have it rougher than we ever did. You know, just some kind of, you know, hey, I'm sure he'll be okay after I'm gone. I'm not utterly worried about it because look, you have to be okay with it. You pick up the ball and run with it. I think that's with everything. I was talking to somebody the other day and I went, look, life always goes on.

Tina (: 46:39

for sure.

Tina (: 46:53

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 47:01

It just doesn't wait for you. So, you know, my thing is make decisions based on truth and what you think, because if you can live with them, that's the best part. Yeah.

Tina (: 47:04

Not at all.

Tina (: 47:16

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 47:19

Yeah, and again, life is not perfect, nor do you have to be. So if you're really messing up somewhere, that's what you're supposed to be doing. That's where you're going to learn your lessons. So mess up. You don't need to be perfect. Drop that that whole way of thinking.

Robb (: 47:39

Yeah. Right. I totally agree with that. All right. Well, we've knocked that out another week in the books. And what's the last thing you want to say here on your journey of 10 years? Yeah.

Tina (: 47:41

Yeah.

Tina (: 47:52

who I don't know, you gotta think like you're living a long time but live like you're not living through tomorrow.

Robb (: 48:01

I think that there's I think Tim McGraw song, know, sometimes you gotta live like you're dying. Yeah.

Tina (: 48:07

Yeah, I really think about that song all the time like when my dad said he had Colon cancer. I was like well dad. What are we gonna do? And he's like well, I want to live and I said, okay, then you live now Like you you start today like right now not tomorrow So that means no sitting in that chair in your bedroom Wasting your life away watching shitty TV lonely and miserable and get up and live now

And I played that song for him and he was like, yeah, yeah, I get it. But, and I know he gave me the yeah, yeah, but you know what? I know he gets it. Cause I saw the look in his face. Like he could say whatever he wants to, but I saw it. And so.

Robb (: 48:53

Exactly. I mean that that's all of us. Look, I'm 50 something years old and still getting tattoos. I know I saw yours. I just got. I showed you mine, right? The one on my leg. And I just got a cover up done started Friday. Yeah, so and then.

Tina (: 48:56

We all gotta do it.

Yeah, I got one too! freaking crazy and I gotta go back to get it touched up even. Yeah, big tattoo.

Tina (: 49:14

Jesus. Yeah, you're way more into it than I am.

Robb (: 49:18

I'm just going to I'm getting this cover up. I started a cover up on my very first tattoo and unfortunately he couldn't finish it because he had to go upstate. So the guy who did my leg is starting to cover up. I'm going to fix that one and I'm going to do one more on my other calf and then I think I'm done. It's a lot. I have a lot of. I. yeah, I got it's big.

Tina (: 49:36

Damn, that's a lot. Those are some big areas on your body that are getting tattooed and I could hardly stand the little one I got on my shoulder.

Robb (: 49:46

My my and my and you know, my calves are like massive. So like when I say I have a big it's big. It's it's literally from the cuff of my knee where it bends all the way to my ankle. It's all of it. It's a big tattoo. That's awesome. All right, guys. Well, just so you know, you can check us out on all the social medias. I'm if you're following us on those, you definitely get them so you can go on Facebook, Instagram X.

Tina (: 49:50

It's Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 49:57

Yeah, it's big.

very much so.

Robb (: 50:16

Oh, I don't know. put I posted everywhere. I'm sure you guys see it. And then. Yeah, check us out on Apple, Spotify, those are the big two, but you can check us out on anywhere. The podcasting things are played there. We're everywhere. We're everywhere. Trust me. And yeah, it's an opinion show. Don't get it twisted. Keep coming back every Wednesday. For Tina, I'm Rob. Will talk to you later. Bye.

Tina (: 50:30

everywhere.

Tina (: 50:33

You

Tina (: 50:40

See ya.