EP # 183 Exploring the Benefits of Cannabis.

Robb (: 00:01

And welcome to another show, Don't Get This Twisted. I am Rob, along with my co-host, as always, Tina. How you doing, Tina?

Tina (: 00:06

I'm hanging in there Rob, you caught me on a day that we don't normally do this, so I was running around but I'm here. Got it.

Robb (: 00:11

Yeah, I had the day off today and it went sideways so I thought hey, I'll Give you a text and see if you wanted to record a little early though all good in the hood No good in the hood. But yeah, not much else besides that kind of doing our thing I caught you off guard. So this was a show that I had on a list, you know from

Tina (: 00:24

No problem there.

Yeah.

Robb (: 00:40

a long time ago and I'm talking like early early like when we first started writing things down so yeah I mean it's it was number 92 but I'm sure that I came up with a lot of them in the very beginning so yeah we were just throwing things at the wall so you know it's it's interesting to kind of see

Tina (: 00:51

I didn't know this was a topic that we were going to discuss.

Tina (: 01:02

You totally did.

Robb (: 01:10

You know, some of the things that I kind of wrote down. But I thought this one mostly today, because I think that there's some really good things about what we're going to talk about. And it's common use. We're going to talk about weed or what you said, cannabis use. So to be fair to this conversation, I looked up

Tina (: 01:31

Yes, cannabis.

Robb (: 01:38

on the interwebs. The downsize to weed. And this one says five benefits and eight risks. So, you know, we can go down the line and I know at one point you were a supporter of the cannabis use. Okay, so there you go. So I have never ever smoked it ever. So I'm probably so I'm probably no, I'm not gonna.

Tina (: 01:56

I still am.

Tina (: 02:03

You should come over and we should do that together then.

Robb (: 02:08

Why start now? But I, to be fair, I have had the gummies. So. You know, whatever, whatever that means. But I, I thought, look, there's a lot of people that use it. I did a. Access control system in a weed store in the San Fernando Valley, actually. Yeah, right over on Rosita and Oxnard.

Tina (: 02:14

Okay.

Tina (: 02:30

Interesting.

Tina (: 02:36

Okay.

Robb (: 02:36

It's a rather large facility as well. So I was there for days and days and days. So I got to see kind of the how things work with Cannabis Store. This particular one was expanding at the time. It was interesting. When you walked in the door, you had to be let in by somebody. And then there was like a

Tina (: 02:38

It is.

Robb (: 03:04

That's like a doctor's office. There was a literally a desk that had a girl that worked there and she would check IDs. It was interesting. And then they would buzz you in to the room once you were allowed to go in. Yeah. So, and this place was very interesting. Once you walked in, since we had free reign of the place, we could just walk wherever we wanted. so we were walking, I walked into the.

Tina (: 03:19

That's exactly how they do it still.

Tina (: 03:29

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 03:34

I guess it's the best way of putting it. So it yeah it had like this place had a plastic jar that had a magnifying glass on the top of it. And the hairs. And then it had an iPad right there with what it was and where it was grown and.

Tina (: 03:37

where they put it on the shelves so that everybody could see what it is. It's like a store.

Tina (: 03:47

Mm-hmm.

Yes, that's so that you could see the crystals and the the keif on it. Yeah, the hairs everything

Robb (: 04:03

how and a bunch of other stuff. then behind them, there was like big 60 inch TVs that had like roll rolling stuff that would like show you like new stuff or, you know, advertisements on stuff. But they had all kinds of other things I had no idea, like infused gummy bears and pretzels and like all kinds of crazy shit. And this was, I mean, over five years ago. So. So obviously the industry was was popping off then, too.

Tina (: 04:05

what type it was.

Tina (: 04:16

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 04:27

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 04:33

This particular place we asked around just for giggles. They said they got about 500 people a day. Yeah, give or take obviously some. Yeah, they. They actually paid. My boss in cash and they in a brown paper sack. It was very. Yeah, it was was odd. Because like.

Tina (: 04:41

Wow. That's some serious cash going through there. And they only take cash.

Tina (: 04:53

Okay.

Yep, that's how they roll money.

Robb (: 05:02

I remember going into her office and she had a bag of cash. Like it was crazy. But I thought it was very interesting to see the differences in who came in there. It was literally from 21 to 90. There was people walking in there with walkers and like, so it wasn't what I thought it was going to be.

Tina (: 05:05

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 05:15

Mmm.

Tina (: 05:22

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 05:26

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 05:30

because I guess my infantile brain thought it was going to be just a bunch of stoner kids. Not. So I yeah, you know what I mean? Like I thought they were going to be a bunch of guys in Metallica t-shirts and yeah. And the crazy thing is like they had security guards. They had signs everywhere that said you can smoke pot in the parking lot. Yeah, so.

Tina (: 05:40

bunch of hashes.

right?

Tina (: 05:53

Right. Yeah, cause everybody wants to get high before they take off driving. Idiots. Yeah.

Robb (: 05:59

But was interesting. I just thought it was like this interesting thing for someone who obviously isn't around it. Which was one of the other reasons they sent me there to do the job. Yeah, I didn't give two shits. Matter of fact, I don't care for the smell. So it was like irritating to be there for hours at a time. I did see the business side of it. I remember walking into a room.

Tina (: 06:10

Yeah, because you aren't going to be getting sidetracked.

Robb (: 06:27

that was like two offices, but they had the wall in between taken out. So it was like maybe two 15 by 15 offices. So let's say 30 by 30 or 30 by 15, whatever it is. And they were, and I'm not joking, there were 40 hefty bags full of weed. It was absurd. Like I was like, what the hell? Like, where am I at?

Tina (: 06:31

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 06:48

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 06:56

So to be around it was kind of funny just for myself. So it was good for me because I didn't care. The guy they sent me there with was an old stoner, like an old like he was like 60 years old and I had but he hadn't done it in years. So he even thought it was kind of funny. He's like, man, this would have been great 30 years ago. But I know that looked to be fair. I know that there are. There's good things about it, mostly like CBD, so CBD is awesome.

Tina (: 07:12

yeah, I'm sure.

Robb (: 07:24

That is basically an extract of the weed that has no THC in it. Correct. Great for joint pain. Like I heard the oils are just amazing. I have tried a gummy with just CBD and I thought it was cool. Kind of melange out, kind of but not overly. I didn't feel high. I just felt, I feel pretty chill. No.

Tina (: 07:30

Yes, but it does have medicinal purposes for sure.

Tina (: 07:47

Right.

so you only took one? You didn't take like six or seven? Yeah.

Robb (: 07:54

I only took one. I'm big on what the container says.

Tina (: 07:58

So when we were in school, I was not into weed at all. I didn't really, I mean, I tried it when I was in my early 20s, liked it and thought, yeah, this is not what I should be doing. So I quit doing it. And then when I was 35,

Robb (: 08:04

You

Tina (: 08:14

I was going through all the fertility treatments and they were making me like clinically depressed and anxious and You know when they mess with your hormones, it just really fucks you up. So anyway I was suicidal at that point and my ex came home and he had a bag of weed and he put it in front of me and he's like I think you should try this like you need it so I Started smoking it. He had already been a smoker. I started smoking it and realized

Robb (: 08:36

Tina (08:45.104)

it calmed the crazy down that I was going through because of the hormones. So I was able to wean myself off all of the...

the depression medication and the anxiety, because technically they never should have given me that because if you're not wired wrong, they shouldn't give you a medicine for people that are wired wrong. You know, I didn't normally have depression or anxiety or like all the things that was going on with me. And, so I was able to get off those and then I just continued to smoke it and it's, it wasn't legal at the time that, you know, this was all going on.

now everything's legal, but I've kind of been in it. I've done different things over the years and I'm kind of versed in it now. And as far as like consumption, I've tried anything from the vapes to the crackle and the honey and all the keif and then flour and pre-rolls and I mean the list of the gummies, the list is long. I've tried pretty much everything, but I stick to just the stray flour because it comes from the source and

Robb (: 09:50

Yeah, it makes sense. Right, no, I mean.

Tina (: 09:57

I just think that why would you put chemicals in something that you that you're getting already to smoke? Without it, you know So yeah, so I I could tell you about the business part as well or what it does to you or what type this good

Robb (: 10:16

Which is all good. I've had some friends who worked and did the clipping. So, yeah, I've heard all kinds of different things. And obviously, it says on here, you can consume several different ways, applying it topically. Which I guess they have THC that you can actually apply topically as well. Eating, smoking, and vaping it. Alright, so let's go over the medical benefits. And I think you've already hit kind of one on the head.

Tina (: 10:21

Mm-hmm. I've done that.

Tina (: 10:26

Yeah.

Tina (: 10:37

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 10:46

It may help anxiety. Let's see. Cannabis smokers often report using the drug to relax and relieve emotional stress. Awesome. One study found that a low dose of THC helped lessen nerves ahead of public speaking. That actually makes kind of sense. Let's see.

Tina (: 10:48

It totally helps anxiety.

Robb (: 11:16

Yeah, mean. Yeah, I'm assuming that when they talk about that, that it's probably.

Tina (: 11:16

It'll also make you like, I don't know if I would publicly speak right after smoking it though. I'd give it a good 15. The first 15 minutes you were, it feels like your body is getting high. Like you're going to a different level. And if you're in the middle of talking, that could be super, that can make you super anxious.

Robb (: 11:39

way beforehand to mellow you out way before. by the time you go on a stage, know, do it 30 or 40 minutes before so you're just kind of sailing. No, and look, and I know that

Tina (: 11:44

Yeah.

Tina (: 11:51

But if I do it before like it if if I was to do it before and then be on the podcast I would be cracking you up because the dumbest things come out of my mouth, too So I would be worried about public speaking, but go ahead that what that's just me

Robb (: 12:09

It people handle it all different ways because I've seen people, you know that I've seen people get high and not do anything or at least not. They don't show it. Yeah. hmm. Number two, which I know is another one that is quite common is it can relieve chronic pain. Which I mean, for fuck's sake, that that in itself, I think is huge.

Tina (: 12:12

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 12:19

Outwardly, yeah.

Tina (: 12:31

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 12:39

Tina (12:40.878)

I bad backaches from standing and stuff.

And it's also, I think, touching people, you know, there's an energy shift that occurs and if everybody's really down or if there's like more of a real serious day, I notice that the pain will hurt. It'll hurt more. But if I go home and I smoke, it kind of loosens up a little. Not that it completely goes away, but it kind of loosens me up.

Robb (: 13:11

Well, what do know? Cannabis might calm pain and stiff tight muscles in people with MS as well. So I guess it's it says the condition affects the brain and the spinal cord, which kind of makes sense because that's where all your.

Tina (: 13:18

Yeah.

Tina (: 13:24

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 13:27

information highway is. Research also found that people often use strains of miracle

and miracle, medical marijuana with THC to ease nausea and vomiting due to chemotherapy. Right. And.

Tina (: 13:40

You know, that's also when my stomach's kind of sick in the morning or whatever. If I were to smoke, I could be able to eat breakfast and everything would be okay. Where if I don't smoke, when I'm feeling kind of like that, I'm not okay. It's really good for stomach problems.

Robb (: 14:01

Look, I mean, guess with anything if it's calming your body, it's probably gonna help a lot of different things. This one I've heard by many, many, many people and I've seen research and video. It helps with epilepsy. It's said to reduce seizures by 39 % in children. So that's, mean...

Tina (: 14:06

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 14:19

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 14:32

39 % is a lot to me. I mean, it's not like they're going, hey, if you use it, 3 % of the people it helps. It's like, I mean, 39 % is a lot. And if you have a child, yeah, if you have a child or you're a person that has epilepsy issues or seizures, like, why would you not? I mean, I would test the theory.

Tina (: 14:34

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 14:44

It's huge.

Tina (: 14:55

Well, I don't know if I'd want to give it to my kid though. Now see, here's where you're like, why not use it? And I'm like, I don't know if that would be a good thing because all your neurotransmitters in your brain aren't developed yet. What would that do to them? Yeah, you're right. You're right.

Robb (: 15:12

No, but they're gonna give him some kind of pill anyway. You know what I mean? Like, I kind of go down the route of you is like, okay, at least it's the most natural side of it. Like they're not. So look,

Tina (: 15:23

Yes, I'm with you on that.

Robb (: 15:27

I'm not up for giving children anything if you don't have to. Shit, our frontal cortex doesn't really develop until you're 25. So you probably shouldn't be getting high until you're 25. I mean, you know, mean truly, I... Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's like drinking. Don't drink until later. Then your liver's great and you can drink until you die. Yeah, so...

Tina (: 15:30

Yeah.

right.

That's what I tell everybody. Let your brain develop first, then you screw it up. Don't get it. Don't screw it up before it's even, you know, done.

Tina (: 15:52

Yeah, I'm with you on that too. Although I still don't drink.

Robb (: 15:57

Yeah, I mean, I didn't start until way later and I still don't drink that often. And even with gummies, my kid brought some home from, went and had to pick up some medicine for somebody and there was a dealer there that was, know, helping with that kind of, I guess, you know, they were.

Tina (: 16:24

A dealer or are you talking about somebody who's in the medical? Okay.

Robb (: 16:27

It was a facility right next to like the hospital, but it was like, because I guess they do a lot of cancers out of this hospital in Palm Springs in the desert. So there was like a facility in the same parking lot that was like very big on like, hey, we're here to help because we know you're coming from the doctor. Like literally, that's what they told my kid. And he brought home some five milligram and some 10 milligram ones.

Tina (: 16:33

Gotcha.

Tina (: 16:47

Wow.

Robb (: 16:54

I've tried both. The 10 milligram one I did on a Friday night and it was, I was already tired and I felt like it really, really hit me. Like I was like kind of tripping balls. Like not like super crazy, but I felt different, like physically felt different. And it could have been just my brain messing with me. I would have to look, I'd have to ask. I'd have to look on the little bottle.

Tina (: 17:15

Were you... Do you know if it was an indica or sativa? Cause that'll make a difference too.

Yeah, because there's two different types of well actually three there's sativas there's the hybrids and then there's indica's and Indica's are really heavy high they do make me go to sleep, but I I like to smoke sativas because Sativas will relax you and get you like in a good headspace, but it doesn't knock you out

Robb (: 17:23

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 17:50

So I normally what I do is I craft or I make my baskets or so that's when I'm when I would smoke it because it puts me in a good headspace I get to spend time with the people that I'm doing it with and You know, I'm just in a good place. It's it's good for being creative Yeah

Robb (: 17:57

Okay. Awesome. So I did that only the one time. So I can't tell you how a 10 would be if I did it like.

Tina (: 18:20

in the morning.

Robb (: 18:21

Earlier in the or just like earlier in the evening like when I got home after dinner like five o'clock and I took it like like 730 and like I said, I had already worked a long ass day. So but I have taken five milligrams since then. And I thought that that just made me very chill and go to sleep. But I did it on a weekday. Yeah, they both, but this one like I didn't feel.

Tina (: 18:25

Yeah.

Tina (: 18:31

Okay.

Tina (: 18:44

They both made you go to sleep.

Robb (: 18:50

I can't even tell you how I felt on the 10. I felt like... But I don't know because I never high. So you know what I mean? Like I felt sparkly. Like I just, I don't, you know what I mean? Like that's the only way I could put it. And the five milligram didn't make me feel like that at all. It just made me feel like... Almost like the THC or the CBD.

Tina (: 18:54

High, you felt high.

Tina (: 19:02

You're high.

Tina (: 19:12

Mm-hmm.

Right?

Robb (: 19:16

And I did the CBD years ago with my friend in North Carolina when she lived in California. So, and then I didn't do a THC one until a few months ago with my kid. No, no, no, no, the ones that we did down the, the ones that I did with my friend in North Carolina were just CBD.

Tina (: 19:23

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 19:35

those were just CBD ones?

Tina (: 19:43

Yeah.

Okay.

Robb (: 19:46

Which were like chill, but that was years ago. And then the ones I did this year with my friend down the street and her son and my kid were THC. Now here's the funny part. They gave us the double whammy. So me and her had already had a couple of drinks. So we were like chilling and we were talking about it because I was like, I've never done it. And my kid goes, well, we'll go get some right now. I was like, what? He's like, yeah.

We'll just go get some right now. And I'm like, OK, whatever. So then they brought some back and gave them to us and told us they were fives, but they were actually tens. So they doped us, which was quite humorous, and I felt like pretty good, like I was hot. I was hot. I was happy. I was like giggling. Me and her ended up in the kitchen eating out of a half gallon ice cream with big spoons.

Tina (: 20:27

Mmm.

Tina (: 20:45

that's common, yeah.

Robb (: 20:46

Yeah, and it was funny because like, you know, here we both are, we go to the gym all the time and we're like, I'm feeling like looking at her going, we're eating out of the fucking ice cream. Like we didn't even put in a bowl. It was really funny. So, you know, I haven't I can't say I've had like a super experience because I've only done it maybe three times total, maybe four. I don't recall, but maybe three. So I thought it was kind of interesting. Here's one that should be.

Tina (: 20:55

Thank

Robb (: 21:14

quite obvious, they're safer than opioids. Yeah, like I have a feeling that some of these good things and some of the bad things are gonna be like common sense. But I think what we were talking about earlier is, for one, they give you cannabis to help you recover from opioid problems.

Tina (: 21:18

No, you don't say.

Tina (: 21:37

You know what's funny though is it's still like one of the worst drugs though. Legally, it's the same as if you had heroin. No, no, no. Weed!

Robb (: 21:50

You mean opioids? I mean, I know that there's some issues and well, I think that those are gonna come up in the bad parts. but I do, it says one study noted 1,826 fewer daily doses of painkillers.

Tina (: 21:59

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 22:06

prescribed each year on average in states where medical use of cannabis was legal. I mean, 2,000 doses, like not that it's a lot because of the millions of people who take drugs, but I mean even that is it's just going to show you that someone's looking outside the box, right? The pharmaceutical business, trust me, if they could run weed, they'll do that as well. It's just a matter of when.

Tina (: 22:13

Hmm.

Robb (: 22:33

You know what I mean? Once it's a federal, once they legally, federally legalize marijuana in the United States, the pharmaceutical business unfortunately will take over. Yeah, oh, absolutely. I heard that there's land in the South where they would generally plant tobacco. So it's owned by the cigarette companies.

Tina (: 22:47

Think so?

Robb (: 23:02

are waiting so they can plant weed. Yeah, they're just waiting. It's a matter of when. So yeah, it's, I think, cause here's the thing. Once the feds take it over, all these weed stores are now gonna be under the jurisdiction of a federal thing, you know, that they have to abide by. So the weed's gonna have to at least do something this, it's gonna all be that, and it's gonna be.

Tina (: 23:04

Hmm.

Robb (: 23:28

So there's gonna be none of this like crazy weed anymore. It's going to be, hey, go in and get weed because it's gonna be federally regulated. I think it's a bad thing.

Tina (: 23:37

Hmm.

I don't know that the feds will want to take it over to be honest with you because there's so much weed out there and everybody's growing it and everybody could do it that I don't know if it would be lucrative for them.

Robb (: 23:56

I think it will be because here's the thing they'll be able to the credit card companies will make money off of it because they'll make 3%. It there's there's money to be made on all the sides. And if it's regulated, they'll just shut stores down that aren't listening to them. You know, it's like alcohol. That's why alcohol has to be a certain, you know, percentage. It can't be over a certain percentage. If you do this, then it becomes moonshine and it becomes illegal. And then it's right back to square one. So

Tina (: 24:11

Right.

Robb (: 24:26

It's I think it could be good and bad I think it'll be better because everyone can get it and if instead of weed being illegal in Nevada When it's legal in the state next to it. It just makes things difficult We're gonna see it in our lifetime team for sure I would say maybe even in the next four years because I had heard that the Trump administration was already

Tina (: 24:40

Yeah.

Robb (: 24:53

doing research on making it legal countrywide. So yeah, there's money to be made. Look, all these people, just imagine, look at all the cash that goes through these things. Now it'll be, you'll be able to walk in with a credit card, boop, or your debit card and take it right out of your account. So, let's see, it's gonna go back to, you can only grow so much. And then,

Tina (: 24:58

Hmm.

Tina (: 25:12

I think if it goes that route I'll just grow it in the backyard.

Robb (: 25:21

If you grow over four plants, they're gonna arrest you, because it'll still be regulated. So they'll get their shit. That's, again, I hope that it doesn't go that route, because I think it's going to just throw disarray into a lot of things. And once the feds and the pharmaceutical get ahold of it, and then it's either gonna become weaker and not work, or you know what I mean? Like you'll have to buy five times the amount to get high.

Tina (: 25:25

Right.

Robb (: 25:48

something you know to that nature because I I mean again I don't smoke it but I heard that there's there's stuff in some of these stores that'll just blitz you sideways yeah so and and if that all goes to it's regulated and you can't it can't get you past this you know and and then once it's federally regulated there's gonna have to be laws about driving under the influence with it and there's gonna have to be a test that you can do on the side of a road and just imagine the DUIs that are gonna go up they're gonna make

Tina (: 25:56

No, absolutely.

Robb (: 26:17

tons of money on DUIs. I agree, but just imagine where they can take a test on the side of the road. Cause they'll come up with something and the DUI and then now you're going to have a DUI and you're going to need a lawyer and you're going to go to prison and you're going to have to pay fines and the state's going to make money that way. There's a lot of horrible shit that I think could come from it, but you know, but then there's the next thing. It may have anti-cancer effects. So

Tina (: 26:18

I think the DUIs are up already because of it, for sure.

Tina (: 26:27

Yeah.

Tina (: 26:41

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 26:47

you know, fuck, you're, you're, we're saying all this crazy shit and they're like, might help cancer, which is like the third killer in this country. Yeah, and it's saying now with studies may destroy, excuse me, or slow the growth of certain cancer cells. So.

Tina (: 26:55

It definitely helps them to be able to eat. It definitely helps them for pain. It definitely calms their stomach. For cancer victims, it's so important to be able to have it.

Tina (: 27:14

Hmm.

Robb (: 27:16

It could slow tumor growth. So, you know, in certain, at least in a Petri dish. But I mean, what's going to happen with that? It's like, holy shit. Now you have something that's even if it's not stopping cancer, it's slowing it down. So then the cancer drugs and chemo can keep you alive. Pretty cool. All right. This one we talked about in a sentence earlier, but I thought it was kind of good. Helps reduce the side effects of chemotherapy.

Tina (: 27:30

Yeah.

Yep.

Robb (: 27:43

Obviously, when you go through chemo, it does a lot to lack of appetite, pain, which both of these. Yeah, it helps alleviate nausea and vomiting, which also chemo does to you. Helps with the risks of dehydration. So all these things, obviously, are really good. And I think just on the other side of

Tina (: 27:51

makes you very sick.

Robb (: 28:12

for someone like me where I don't think I have high anxiety but I do believe that it's definitely a great reducer of stress and at least mellowing you out to the point of you know not drinking you know which we know is horrible for your liver etc

Right.

Tina (: 28:36

Yeah, it I have a lot going on like our house is still in disarray from being you know the construction So there's no liver living room. No kitchen found out my dad has He has a colon cancer so we're gonna be dealing with him going and having a surgery and then having to rehab here without a kitchen or a living room and

You know, I'm trying to work and do my own thing and have my own life and there's a lot. And I know that when I come home from work and I'm sitting there, like, my gosh, I can't sit still. My hands are tapping. My leg is shaking. I'm just, there's just so much to think about, right? So after, or when I think about it, I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to go smoke a little and I smoke a little. And next thing you know, I'm back to like...

enjoying life and okay we'll get through it we got this you know it's like it clears the negativity out of my out of my brain a little bit so that i can like just think about what i got to do next instead of worry about every last thing there is to worry about

Robb (: 29:49

Kind of brings you back to center. So here's the flip side. They're going to give the bad parts now. In some strains, it says it may aggravate anxiety, make you panic. And some of the things off of that are like anxiety, confused speech.

Tina (: 29:51

Yeah, it just takes that edge off that will drive me crazy.

Tina (: 30:12

Hmm.

Robb (: 30:18

Decline in school or work performance, obviously. Difficult thinking, clearly. Lack of motivation. Lack of personal hygiene. Man, this is like stoner kids from a long time ago. This one I've definitely heard, paranoia. Spending more time alone than usual and trouble sleeping. Now, I'm assuming that this is probably a very small percentage of people.

Tina (: 30:32

Yeah.

Tina (: 30:43

I shower every day. I brush my teeth all the time. I floss them all the time. There's no problems with hygiene here. I go to work. I pay my bills. I am responsible member of my family and society. I don't, I don't know.

Robb (: 30:50

Right. I have heard paranoia, but I think that's just maybe you just have a.

Tina (: 31:04

if you have a bad trip or something or you got s- You know what a lot of times I notice that people will have paranoia's if they drink with it. Like I don't cross... cross... crossfade.

Robb (: 31:14

Yeah, what do they what do they call that Crossfaded yeah, I've heard that can be really bad Yeah

Tina (: 31:22

I don't do that just because I don't drink. I've never been a drinker. So it's funny when people like, you're a stoner. I'm like, but I don't drink. Like I picked my poison. This one doesn't give me the extra calories unless I munch out and I don't have a hangover. It doesn't, it hasn't affected my ability to be a, I was asking, I was asking, uh,

a friend today if I was lazy because I was always told when I was younger that I was lazy and they look yeah I've asked several people actually but the one I asked today looked at me like I was damn crazy and said really you don't sit down at all like even if you do sit down you're doing something with your hands you're making something you're creating something you're you never sit still and and you know what I was like well so much for being a lazy stoner I guess I'm not

Robb (: 31:58

You

Robb (: 32:07

Right. Yeah, I mean, like I said, the only thing that I've really heard out of any of those is paranoia. And I think that

Tina (: 32:15

You know, and this is somebody that I don't think is lazy at all telling me, are you kidding? You're not even close to being lazy, so... I feel like I'm doing alright.

Robb (: 32:32

Generally people who have, I think, like any kind of paranoia episode is probably because there's something going on in your life that's making you paranoid in the first place. This is heightens it.

Tina (: 32:43

Yeah, yeah, or you're a kid that's like, you know, you are people that are not used to smoking it or ingesting it. What happens is when you first do it, you start to feel like a high. You start to feel you're you're going to a different plane. Right. And that accelerated speed at which you're doing that will make people nervous or make them anxious instead of them sitting back and going.

this feels really good. I'm just gonna sit here and enjoy it. That'll start to control it. And I always say when you get to the point where you're starting to feel weird, you need to drink some really cold water. Because it'll bring your body back, you know, you won't feel you won't feel so anxious because the shock of the cold water will force you to be in your in your head in your body. But I've seen people do that and they just lose their shit.

Robb (: 33:33

Right. Okay.

Tina (: 33:38

And I'm like, it's just you getting high. Relax. And then sometimes when you get like that, I have been like that. I'll smoke a little more because you get off the plane that you were at that's driving you crazy. And if cold water doesn't work, I'll smoke some more. And that normally helps. But I find that when I do edibles, that's like harder to control. I used to make butter. I did.

catered a whole party that was nothing but cannabis food and I had made a cannabis butter and and Then I put a little tiny bit on a piece of toast and I ate it Well, I was high 11 hours later I and had to still call my cousin to come and pick me up and take me home because I felt Too freaking high. I couldn't get off the couch. I was laid out I felt like I was sewed in and I wasn't going anywhere and I didn't care

Robb (: 34:21

Holy sh-

That's funny

Tina (: 34:36

Like I really didn't care. So I messed myself up on the stuff that I made. So you'd imagine this was the most boring party I'd ever been to because everybody got high and went home. They were tired. but then I've had edibles. My mom one time made these edible brownies and I ate one. And then I took my daughter. I didn't know they were edibles until I was done eating it, by the way.

Robb (: 35:00

that's nice.

Tina (: 35:02

Then I took my daughter down the street to go to therapy and we stopped at Taco Bell. So we ate our Taco Bell in front of the counselor's house and because she worked out of her house. And then my daughter went in and I sat in the car. Well, all of a sudden I couldn't move. I couldn't sit up in the car seat and I vomited all over myself. I literally vomited straight down my chest into the crotch of my pants.

Robb (: 35:23

my... Damn! What the hell, Mom?

Tina (: 35:30

down to the floor of the car and and I knew exactly what I ate because it you know, I just eaten Taco Bell I don't know but I told I called my mom and I said mom I don't know what's going on and I don't know where I am But I need you to pick up my daughter at such-and-such time at counseling at this address and I was able to tell her everything right? I did not know where I was and I woke up naked in my

Robb (: 35:54

Wow. no. Fuck.

Tina (: 35:58

living room wrapped in a blanket. I don't know how I got from the counseling office to my home, but I know that when I threw up, I threw up so violently that I peed my pants as well. So I took off all my clothes and left them on the front porch and then walked in. But I didn't know this until my daughter brought my clothes into the house and I had just wrapped myself in a blanket.

Robb (: 36:08

Wow. man.

Tina (: 36:28

So, so apparently my mom and I made some really strong things, you know, but so edibles were never really my thing, but my cousin likes to take them. She's like, just take a 10 milligram and you'll see you'll have a good day. So I did that and, and way different experience. But again, when you're making stuff like hillbillies in your, in your kitchen, you got to know that you're asking for whatever you get.

Robb (: 36:41

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's the similar thing I would think is like moonshine where it's like one wrong thing and it's fucking, I know 180 proof. So.

Tina (: 36:58

Right?

Robb (: 37:04

Yeah, I mean, I'm assuming like obviously the 10 milligram ones are controlled there. It's only a certain amount of stuff that can really go through. So. yeah, that must have been bad. My goodness. I mean, good, but 11 hours. Yeah, it's like don't fry eggs in it. man, that would have been awesome though.

Tina (: 37:08

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 37:12

Yeah, I wish they would have tested that better. That would have been interesting to know just how much was in it.

Tina (: 37:19

know it was good but you could only have a drop of it.

It was good, I tried though.

Robb (: 37:32

So this one's kind of easy and I don't, mean, not too deep, but I think any drug poses risk of issues during pregnancy. I think that's with a lot of things. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. I don't care what it is. Shouldn't drink, shouldn't smoke, shouldn't take weed, shouldn't do any pills. mean, that's pretty basic. The only thing it does say is it says THC May.

Tina (: 37:42

Obviously if you're pregnant you shouldn't be doing any freaking thing at all but taking care of yourself and being healthy. Yeah, nah.

Robb (: 38:01

have a 2.3 times greater risk of stillbirths. But it said may. I mean, I'm sure like, yeah, there's, I mean, don't do anything. That one should be, this one's kind of interesting. It says that with some strains, it increases the risk of heart attack. Pretty interesting. Yeah, my heart's probably going.

Tina (: 38:06

Mmm.

Tina (: 38:14

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 38:24

I don't know how, cause it mellows me out completely.

Robb (: 38:30

Like, you know what I mean? Like it would probably slow it down a lot. One review noted a tenfold increase in the THC content in cannabis over the past 10 years, which are found to increase wide potential THC use. Yeah, it's just saying that they found it in people that had had heart attacks or strokes. I think that that could be either related or not. It says it could deal with an irregular heartbeat, which

Tina (: 38:30

Yeah. Right?

Robb (: 38:59

an arrhythmia which makes sense because maybe it's but that could be with anxiety that's going through over it. Cardiac duress, heart disease so but again very small I think. Here's the one that I am I think more worried about than anything it impairs driving which is no different than drinking. Cannabis is among the most

frequent illicit drugs in driver's blood during vehicle crashes, including fatal ones. tests may detect cannabis in bodily fluids for days or weeks after use. Some people might combine cannabis with alcohol, which is probably 10 times worse than one or the other. I can't look, I think.

Tina (: 39:31

Yeah, I'm sure.

Tina (: 39:48

It's not my favorite feeling.

Robb (: 39:53

If you're going to make it legal federally, there has to be something that you can do on the side of the road so the police can check. And obviously, like I've seen people smoking out in cars and then driving off. To say that you're not inebriated, you're fucking stupid. are, period. anything that's anything, that's why they tell you not to get on opiates when you're doing, you know what I mean? Like it's you're driving a vehicle.

Tina (: 39:59

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 40:22

that can kill people. So I just think that and you know and I hate people to go it's legal it's legal well really in the state of California truly if you look at the law in this state you're not supposed to leave your house it you can only smoke it in your house when you see people outside smoking it down the street it's actually illegal yeah the the law reads that

Tina (: 40:24

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 40:32

Legal doesn't mean that you get in the car and you drive with it though. That's not legal.

Tina (: 40:41

Mmm.

Robb (: 40:51

You can do it for yourself in your place of living. So yeah, so you're not supposed to be able to do it out and about. But when you see that, yeah, you can't. Right, no, but I mean, if you were just walking down the street, it's illegal. They can actually get you for it. Now.

Tina (: 40:58

Interesting.

Tina (: 41:06

but you're not allowed to smoke in places so it doesn't that doesn't make sense

Robb (: 41:18

Are the police gonna run you down for that? Probably not. Not these days. know, much, much more things to do. But I would guess that if, you if they wanted to shake your tree, they could. Here's one for you. It can harm lungs, which I mean, obviously, you know what mean? Like it's a smoke. You're putting something in your lungs that

Tina (: 41:34

Yeah, for sure.

Robb (: 41:47

You know, it's it'll irritate your lungs, throat and raise risk of severe lung problems such as asthma, bronchitis and COPD. So. Makes sense. That's why I just eat it. You know, I mean, I guess I just find that easier since I, you know, my mom smoked and I hated it and I've hated it since I was a child. And at the end of the day, killed her.

Tina (: 42:03

Yeah.

Robb (: 42:15

So anything in your lungs? Although I don't think smoking did, but she had COPD. I'm sure it didn't help. And I just find eating it easier. It's so quick. Like, it's like down the hatch, boy. And in a little while you're you're good to go. So. yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

Tina (: 42:31

I don't know, I kinda like smoking it, but I've noticed in time that it's made my voice a little deeper or little scratchier. Yeah, it kinda does. Was he a smoker?

Robb (: 42:43

Like Barry White, baby, yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, he might have been. think, I don't know, I think he's dead, but yeah, I think, like, I get it. Anything to do with your lungs and your throat, it's probably, it's gonna put you at a risk. I mean, and it says it may. A lot of these are may. This is the one that you were talking about. Poses risks for adolescence. Obviously, yes, I think that that's.

Tina (: 43:01

Mm.

Tina (: 43:10

Yeah.

Robb (: 43:13

Yeah.

Tina (: 43:13

I know a youngin that did it at like, I don't know, was it 14? And kind of spazzed out for a while, you know, was like they were taking her to doctors and trying to figure out like...

what was wrong with her and she was having anxiety and stuff and I was like how many times do I tell these children that they're not supposed to try anything until their brains are developed. It kind of made she had kind of a bad spell for a while because of it.

Robb (: 43:45

I mean, look at all the people that were in the alleys over by our junior highs and high schools. I mean, they were burnouts. Now, they end up being like that? Probably not. But it definitely didn't help their school, you know, their work performance or their school performance. You know what I mean? It's just look, I mean, dude, I worked with somebody that would go to their car and get high.

All the time. you know, mean, guess to each their own and whatever tickles your pickle. for me, I just like I can barely function at work sober. I couldn't imagine doing it another way, but that's just me.

Wow. Right.

Tina (: 44:24

Yeah, no, don't I don't have a job where I need to think that way and If I were to get high I've done my friend's hair in my garage high high as a kite and they said it was the best haircut I ever gave them but It's also It's also a different, you know, it's it's it's not technical at all What I do is not going to kill anybody. Nobody's gonna die, you know from from

anything that could happen around me but I don't know I find that I say too much when I'm high so I don't like to be high at work because people don't need to know me I need to know them to do their hair and that's I try to keep it like that not that I'm not completely open with people I am but they don't need to know all the extra stuff that I wouldn't care came out if you know if I wasn't working

Robb (: 45:06

Right. Right. Well, and that's, that's kind of what

Like here's the thing with that. You're right, you can't kill nobody. You can just give shitty haircut. You know what I mean? And it'll grow back. Yes, I think, but should you do it if you're a heavy equipment operator? Eh, probably not. No, but you know what I mean? There's certain things where you're like, you know.

Tina (: 45:30

Yeah, just mess up your head.

Tina (: 45:42

No, you can't. They test you. Yeah.

Robb (: 45:48

You shouldn't do it if you're like a scuba diver or like just things that you could like fuck you up. I just I understand like look there's there are other jobs that you could probably be high all day and do well at probably. Yeah. Sales. Maybe if. Yeah, more talkative. I bet you there was people.

Tina (: 45:53

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 46:00

Yeah, any sort of art, you know, like if you're gonna be, you know, drawing, drawing stuff sales, maybe probably it probably make you more fun and upbeat and wanna. Yeah, maybe.

Robb (: 46:14

I'm gonna age me. I worked for a place called the good guys way back in the day It was like an electronic store like Best Buy I'm gonna go out on a limb and say I Always wondered about some dude because I was like naive I was only like 21 years old and I didn't know much I Think that there was this one older dude. He was high all the time Knowing what I know now, know what I mean? Like he was always glossy eyed

Tina (: 46:33

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 46:37

sure of it.

Robb (: 46:42

He could talk to a fucking mop and make it buy something. He was just really good. So he was probably I. Let's see, we're almost out of here. let's see, it's Canonoid hypermesis syndrome, CHS. I'm not a doctor, so.

Tina (: 46:47

Right?

Robb (: 47:11

I'm just gonna go out on limb, but look it up. It says causes clinical abdominal pain, nausea and vomiting after cannabis. So it's probably something very small. You know, it probably doesn't happen very often, but this this could be a side effect that, and it's clinical. So once you do it, it's like forever. So not, not good. It says it's possible to use cannabis for years without having symptoms of CHS.

Tina (: 47:34

Interesting.

Robb (: 47:39

But symptoms tend to stick around as long as you use the cannabis once you develop them. So once you have this shit, you know, you're kind of. Yeah. Well, and then it says the only way to stop these issues is stop the weed. and then this one I find kind of silly, but I guess theoretically it's true. It may become a gateway drug.

Tina (: 47:49

So enjoy it until you get it. No.

is to not smoke it.

Robb (: 48:08

I don't either but could it sure

Tina (: 48:09

I still don't believe that shit.

Tina (: 48:14

I don't think anything's a gateway to anything. You either have the predisposition and you're just gonna go down the line and try what you're gonna try or you're not. don't...

I don't even you don't you don't even have an addiction to you don't get an addiction to marijuana I go away to my friend's house and I'll pass those seven to ten days. I don't smoke it at all I may think about it once like one night I'll be like this would be a good night to have a joint but I don't like it's not like I'm I'm Feeding for it. It's not like I I've got to have it

Robb (: 48:37

You

Tina (: 48:48

I don't trip out as I'm getting ready to get to the airport going, my God, I can't believe I'm not bringing weed to El Paso. And you know better than to freaking smoke weed in Texas. You just don't do that. Cause that's stupid with their laws. So it, it's funny cause I've been, you know, back East and not had it. I've been to, you know, Vegas, not have it. And I don't miss it. Nor do I drink.

Robb (: 48:55

Right. Right.

Robb (: 49:14

Yeah

Tina (: 49:15

And I and I the only other type of drug I ever tried was mushrooms once and all it did was make me sit on the toilet and Like just whatever was in my body Was an exorcism and it came out and that was I didn't have any Any sort of visions or anything like they said it was gonna be all kinds of fun and that was the last time I did it so Gateway drug, I don't know

Robb (: 49:40

I don't believe it, but I can see where if someone does it and they have the disposition to try more stuff, it could be. But that's, kind of believe what you're saying. Like, eh, eh, you know, cause like, look at me, dude. I've never, I didn't do it for, I mean, the first time I took a THC, I was 53 years old.

Tina (: 49:49

They will, yeah.

Tina (: 49:57

Right.

Tina (: 50:07

Yeah, you need to get out more.

Robb (: 50:10

I mean, you I don't know. you know, I don't know, fuck, I didn't drink till I was 38. So my liver's probably really good. I can probably, and I don't even barely drink now, so like, I'm thinking my 60s, I'm just gonna drink daily, see what happens. You know what I mean? Like, nah, what the hell? Yeah, like what the hell? Like, and then what's it gonna do, kill me? Ha, I don't know.

Tina (: 50:16

right?

Tina (: 50:19

It should be.

Tina (: 50:26

You're stupid. You're like, I'm on the downward slope. It's okay now.

Tina (: 50:38

good lord.

Robb (: 50:38

But, you know, look, I think the few times that I've dabbled with the CBD and the THC, I found it to be coming from someone who isn't a user for long period of time. I do believe that it has some kind of help to anxiety and calming you. just, it...

It's definitely something that just kind of pumps the brakes. I guess that's the best way I can put it. I guess, you know, later on in another show, I'll tell you if I take a 10 when I'm not tired. Well, we'll I'll come back with a with an update on a on a on the next show. But I definitely think it helps. And then obviously, I. I hear I'm going to try to get some CBD oil.

and just like rubbed in my knees, you know what I mean, to see if it helps with inflammation and that kind of thing. But I heard it helps there too.

Tina (: 51:41

So my family always put, rubbing alcohol, or put a weed in rubbing alcohol. You leave it in your closet in a dark place for three months and then you come back and the alcohol will have leached all the medicinal properties out of the cannabis and then you use that as a rub and I have some of that if you want to try it. That is, is totally Indian shit.

Robb (: 52:04

That's some straight Indian shit right there, That is. I'm sorry, native. You know. Yes, that's correct. You guys were the really cool necklaces. Yes, well, necklaces, I guess I wouldn't I wouldn't call it a choker on a guy. I would call it a necklace. I know, but you know, or the really cool or the really cool armor, you know, the front armor.

Tina (: 52:11

Yeah, we're feather not dot. Yeah.

Tina (: 52:19

Chokers. Yeah. Bone. Stuff like that. It's a choker even on a guy.

from with you.

Robb (: 52:34

That was pretty cool. Anyway, here's my thing. I've been wanting to do a show on this for quite a while. Obviously, it's probably been on that book for probably two years. And, you know, we're about to drop. This is episode one hundred eighty three. I know we're getting closer to two hundred. Pretty cool. But anyway, I wanted to do this because I thought, you know, since I have

Tina (: 52:34

Yes.

Tina (: 52:53

Stop it.

Robb (: 53:03

I can now talk about it that I have at least done it. I didn't want to come into a show like totally just a dumb shit like, hey, Tina, get high. Tell us about it. At least I guess. Yeah. You know what mean? Like at least I can say that I've done it. And I think I think it definitely has some some good effects. It's I liked it for when I feel like I just need to sleep and I'm having problems sleeping. A five mil helped me out and off to sleep. So.

Tina (: 53:14

Well, Rob...

Hmm.

Tina (: 53:29

Mm-hmm.

Robb (: 53:33

I would recommend. I definitely think that, you know, if you... Yeah, and again, if you're, if you want to just dabble, I would go do a shop and get a very low dose of THC. I mean, you don't have to jump in and take two tens, right? You know what mean? And like, go down the...

Tina (: 53:38

I would definitely recommend if you're over the age of 25 and you've got your shit together, then give it a shot.

Tina (: 53:54

Yeah, that's true too.

Tina (: 53:59

Well, they even have like the range of THC that's actually in the flower. Like I buy these pre-rolls that look like little tiny Capri cigarettes. They're 18 % THC.

Robb (: 54:00

see?

Right there.

Tina (: 54:17

That's friends that don't smoke when they're with me and they want to smoke I'll hand them one of those because I'm not trying to like kill anybody, you know So i'll start them up, you know, just giving them a real low whatever And and I think that that's that's a good way to even start if you're gonna do it like you don't need to get anything That's gonna blast you out into You know the unknown You know putting all the extra stuff on at the crackle the the vaping stuff where you you really get into that you don't need

to do all that. Just be, remember to be kind to yourself. You don't need to blow yourself out of water.

Robb (: 54:49

Right. Yeah, that's a good point. Like, don't, don't fuck up your first high. And throw up on yourself.

Tina (: 55:00

Yeah, don't make butter or brownies like my mom and I did and try to kill yourself with them because yeah, I lost time.

Robb (: 55:09

Yeah. Yeah, I was around someone who was crossfaded. So this is what happened. She we were drinking. She took a 10 that she didn't know because that was a five. And then her son gave her a hit of weed. And she went into like La La Land. No, it did. It fucked her up bad, like bad, bad. So but, know, thanks.

Tina (: 55:25

We were asking for trouble. Yeah. I get it.

Robb (: 55:35

I thought it was a good show. think that that's it's something that, you know, would have been taboo fucking 20 years ago. Like we couldn't have talked about it. It would have been something that was so so like, well, at least we're moving forward. And, know, to me, anything that's got less pills, less drugs that we have to get from some pharmaceutical company that's probably trying to kill us anyway. Or or at least get us hooked enough that we keep buying it until we drop dead. But yeah.

Tina (: 55:55

Mm-hmm.

Tina (: 56:01

Seriously.

Robb (: 56:03

Any final words on the show that you know something about? Yeah, that's... I can't even top that one. That's absolutely perfect.

Tina (: 56:07

Yeah, finally no. Just remember as always, you need to be responsible. Don't be a dumbass. You can get high, have your moment, but don't be a dumbass. You still got to take care of life and everything that comes with it. And I always say do that before you get high and try to forget everything.

Robb (: 56:31

yeah, check us out on all them social medias. I've been hitting them up a lot more lately and you should be seeing, posts for me and I'm trying. I know. Now, now if we could just get you to know how to share them, it would be awesome. We, we, need, we need you to do that because you need to share with the people out there so they can get to seeing the show because the, the, the numbers show that somewhere we lost people that you were probably your friends.

Tina (: 56:40

I do see them Rob, thank you so much!

Know and I haven't I have not asked my niece yet. I haven't seen her so

Robb (: 57:01

Because I'm hitting them up all the time and I'm and and I'm if you haven't noticed I'm doing them more than once a week So when a show comes out on Wednesday, you get it Wednesday Thursday and then probably Saturday Sunday and then Tuesday So, and look It's a opinion show so don't get mad at us for saying crazy shit like why are they talking about weed? So it's opinion show so keep coming back every Wednesday

Tina (: 57:12

I really need to start using my social media. Okay.

Robb (: 57:30

Check us out on all the places you can find podcasts. We're on every everything, everything, everything. And share the show because people are sharing for sure. We are showing up in states that generally don't listen to us. And for sure countries. There are people in Europe that are sharing this show because we've had lots of different countries. Pretty awesome. Yeah, in different cities in like we had a bunch in Australia and they're they're definitely popping up again.

Tina (: 57:52

That's crazy.

Robb (: 57:59

Lots of people in England. I'm very happy that there's some people in England and Ireland that are listening to the show. So, yes ma'am. Cool. So we'll see you in a week for another exciting place and show. Until then, I'm Rob. That's Tina. See later.

Tina (: 58:16

See ya.